Are we the worse at picking second round picks or cursed?

[MHS831]

6 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Whatever other issues SS had with teammates failed in comparison to Steve's infuriating complex. He had to be the best and baddest in the field and he wasn't going to be anyone's friend.

Except Kasay, strangely enough.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

Except Kasay, strangely enough.

I have a theory about that. I think Steve liked Kasey because he was no threat and was clutch at his position. And he was also probably the only guy that wasn't afraid talk to Steve.

[MHS831]

4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I have a theory about that. I think Steve liked Kasey because he was no threat and was clutch at his position. And he was also probably the only guy that wasn't afraid talk to Steve.

Same thought.

[Carolina Cajun]

20 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Ryan Khalil would agree. He's the last 2nd round pick I can remember worth a damn.

Donte Jackson was a 2nd rounder and he was alright.  Not elite, but what you should hope for in 2nd round, a guy who does his job well past the first contract.

[Ricky Spanish]

Bradberry, Samuel, Moton, Jackson are our best most recent in 16/17/18.

KK Short in 13

Before that you have to go back to 07 with Kalil, and even then we still took Jarret in the 2nd as well.

The list above includes anyone between solid to good. The fact the rest were JAGs who were out of the league within a few years shows how bad we are at it.

[rayzor]

What teams actually hit on their 2nd consistently?

[L-TownCat]

4 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Wasn't Mushin Muhammad a second rounder? 

Ohh damn you got me.  Yep he sure was.

[RumHam]

On 12/9/2024 at 7:00 PM, UnluckyforSome said:

Foster and Colbert I think are the bar setters there.

 

Maybe we should draft lineman instead in that round.

foster worked out though.

[CRA]

17 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Except Kasay, strangely enough.

Kasay and Jake.  89 was the tightest w/ the folks you would think he would have been the furthest from.  Jake and 89 were really tight off the field especially when they started families.   On the Edlemen podcast he said he still talks to Jake every month by phone to this day. 

[MechaZain]

19 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I have said this before, but I watched Steve Smith bully the hell out of Dwayne Jarrrett at OTAs---and the coaches let him do it.  Steve is a narcissistic munchkin--there were not any WRs who were drafted here who prospered after Smith was drafted-I recall him embarrassing Jimmy Clausen in public, punching 2 teammates, and I watched him bully at least 1 WR.  He was not a good teammate-he sucked as a person, in my limited view.  However, at 5'8" and 200 lbs, maybe that was necessary for him to be great.

A little late my friend he's said it himself

[OneBadCat]

19 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Bradberry, Samuel, Moton, Jackson are our best most recent in 16/17/18.

KK Short in 13

Before that you have to go back to 07 with Kalil, and even then we still took Jarret in the 2nd as well.

The list above includes anyone between solid to good. The fact the rest were JAGs who were out of the league within a few years shows how bad we are at it.

Richard Marshall was okay-ish.

[SmokinwithWilly]

It's not that we're the cursed. We're just monumentally stupid at reading the draft and knowing where premium players at certain positions are typically found. Our GMs have been willing to take the Tier 3 guy at a premium position instead of a premier player at a position of need, just not as glamorous. And to no one's surprise, it works less often than not. 

[Ricky Spanish]

43 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

Richard Marshall was okay-ish.

Marshall was the '06 draft, the year before Kalil and Jarrett, so even further into the past.

[MHS831]

3 hours ago, MechaZain said:

A little late my friend he's said it himself

He must have matured.  We all grow up--well, I am working on it