Not sure how being bottom 10 in passing justifies so much confidence..

[mav1234]

9 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Bryce needs to give his WRs a chance on the deep sideline passes. Other than that, I really don't see what else he NEEDs to do better or more consistently. He's making every throw except the aforementioned. He's throwing on time and on spot. He's throwing receivers open most of the time. He's making good decisions. He's stepping up in the pocket with his eyes downfield. He's escaping the pocket and making plays when the protection breaks down. And he's doing it all very consistently. You can't judge a QB in a vacuum with statistics. He can only control what he can control. He can't make the OC call a play that works against the defense. He can't make the Center give a good snap, or the Oline block, or the receiver run a good route, or the receiver catch the ball, or the receiver run with the ball after he catches it. 

Look around the league. When you watch other games, where would you rank the Panthers receivers on making contested catches that hit them in both hands, and/or run after catch? I know I watch other games (usually split screen for the 1:00pm games and 4:00pm games) and see that every team has a guy or 2 out there that looks like he's ready to take it to the house after every catch. Every team has a guy or 2 out there catching the ball with defenders in tight coverage. Panthers get that occassionally - mostly Thielen. But no one is out there running after the catch. No one. Even running backs are taking screens to the house in other games. That's huge for stats and it's makes a QB's job easier. Bryce's passing yards are basically where the receivers catch the ball. When you complete 20+ passes and nobody breaks one, that's a lot of pressure. 

Bryce was horrible overall last season and the first 2 games this season. He deserved to be benched. He was playing like a scared puppy out there. It was embarrassing for him and the team. I called him trash after the second game. But he's always been a threat in a close game with 2 minutes on the clock. Even last year. And he's actually taken a step forward in that department this season. But again, he can only control what he can control. 

Wins and losses are a team stat. Not a QB stat. 

 

Overall he's shown huge strides. And I think he has shown he can make almost every throw he needs to, but some need to be done with more consistency and placement. Bryce is missing guys very deep in a general sense; sometimes they manage to get to the ball anyway, sometimes they drop it. Some of that is just the experience together. He also has times where his footwork is terrible, but it's so much better than earlier in the season. Last game, either he or Canales was not getting the offense to the line fast enough (this is hard to be sure of), which I think reflects the inexperience of both. Fwiw, we do have YAC guys in Coker and Sanders... Just need to get them on the field again.

[MasterAwesome]

2 hours ago, frankw said:

While I am sympathetic O'Connell was injured and wish him well he was having a dreadful game and his future is competing for a backup job around the league at best. You can rabble about narratives all you like. I'm expecting our #1 pick to ascend much higher than the likes of that.

Yeah the issue is your incessant need to sensationalize everything.  Why can't you just say you have higher standards for our QB, instead of "Bryce is on par with the guy who was just BENCHED against Tampa Bay for being so awful!!!" which was just a lie.

It's ironic that the broader conversation here is around people who just point to stats/box scores without actually watching the game or putting it in context of how Bryce actually looked on the field...and then you literally just did that egregiously for Aidan O'Connell lol.  You've perfectly exemplified why it's silly to make assumptions entirely from a box score.