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Bryce Young resurgence recognized in the media

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14 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

I would love to have to come here and say I was totally wrong.  That would mean he’s become a star and well worth the cost we paid.

Hes getting better each week and he’s piloting the team into positions to win.  I’m very encouraged by what I’m seeing but too jaded to formally declare his arrival.

I want to see this level of play when the games aren’t meaningless.

They're hardly meaningless...especially to him.  Regardless of our record, he has been under enormous pressure to perform since this very well could've been the nail in the coffin of his NFL career if he came back from his benching looking like the same awful overwhelmed QB from the start of the season.  "Performing when the games 'matter'" is essentially a proxy for "performing under pressure" and I don't know how you can argue he isn't under a lot of pressure.  If he can play well now, then I have little doubt that it would translate over if we were in the playoff race, for example.

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28 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

I would love to have to come here and say I was totally wrong.  That would mean he’s become a star and well worth the cost we paid.

Hes getting better each week and he’s piloting the team into positions to win.  I’m very encouraged by what I’m seeing but too jaded to formally declare his arrival.

I want to see this level of play when the games aren’t meaningless.

who says the games are meaningless? for who?

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I like what we are seeing. Before Bryce was the main reason the team was not able to compete. Now he seems to be the main reason we are in a position to win. Yesterday he passed the ball for a go ahead touchdown and it was literally in the receiver’s hands in the end zone. He’s not the problem the last few games. This is for sure. 
 

is he elite franchise qb material?  For me, it remains to be seen, but this latest version of Bryce is a competent and talented NFL player. 

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48 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

They're hardly meaningless...especially to him.  Regardless of our record, he has been under enormous pressure to perform since this very well could've been the nail in the coffin of his NFL career if he came back from his benching looking like the same awful overwhelmed QB from the start of the season.  "Performing when the games 'matter'" is essentially a proxy for "performing under pressure" and I don't know how you can argue he isn't under a lot of pressure.  If he can play well now, then I have little doubt that it would translate over if we were in the playoff race, for example.

I was referring to playoff implication.  And not to go head long into the least important part of my post, but playoff pressure is real and it is most definitely a different pressure than proving you belong on the field.

I said he was improving, I said I was impressed, and I said I want to see him continue to develop.  Not sure what else you want to me to say?

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4 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

I was referring to playoff implication.  And not to go head long into the least important part of my post, but playoff pressure is real and it is most definitely a different pressure than proving you belong on the field.

I said he was improving, I said I was impressed, and I said I want to see him continue to develop.  Not sure what else you want to me to say?

I still think your career being on the line poses more pressure than your season being on the line, but I guess we can agree to disagree cause it's admittedly subjective.

If I only addressed the "least important" part of your post, that's usually an indicator that it was the only part I disagreed with.  So the "what else do you want me to say" is a bit defensive but I apologize if it seemed like I was coming at you.  Just had a minor disagreement with one part of your post.  I do agree with everything else you said.

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31 minutes ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

is he elite franchise qb material?  For me, it remains to be seen, but this latest version of Bryce is a competent and talented NFL player. 

I could care less if he's "elite", that's a term that has become overused.  There are only few true elite QBs in history and only 2 or 3 any given year.  

I want my QB to be competitive, competent, and give us a fighting chance to win every week.  I think Bryce has shown promise he can do that consistently, can be clutch when the pressure is on.  Now let's build a whole team around him instead of chasing "elite".  

He may never "justify" what Tepper gave up to trade for him but that's sunk cost and completely irrelevant as we evaluate our roster needs going forward. 

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Bottom line - Bryce has shown he can be a playmaker and not just a game manager.  His recent performances with game on the line show that.  

Bryce Young recent game-winning drive attempts:

  • vs. Saints: 3:26 remaining in the 4th. 4 plays, 64 yards, go-ahead TD.
  • vs. Chiefs: 3:21 remaining in 4th. 5 plays, 49 yards, game-tying TD and two-point conversion.
  • vs. Bucs: 3:05 remaining in 4th. 9 plays, 60 yards, go-ahead TD. Then went 25 yards in 4 plays in OT to set up game-winning field goal before Chuba lost a fumble.
  • vs. Eagles: 2:58 remaining in 4th. 13 plays, 45 yards, go-ahead TD dropped by Legette.

You can't ask for much more than this.  

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3 hours ago, gorillamilitia13 said:

Yes the haters either only look at the stats or are pathetic losers who want to see him fail just to protect their own ego. They're probably both

I totally agree with this point. Too many people want to be correct because of their ego.  

I was never a Brice Young hater.  I concern was starting him as quarterback and putting him a situation where he is expected to take us to the playoffs and Super Bowl.   
 

How to concern was this: and it is based upon my experience as a Saints fan when Mike Dick was the coach.  Mike traded the Saints future away to get a running back named Ricky Williams. I think we all know how Ricky Williams turned out.
 

I was not comfortable with the Panthers trading away future draft picks to get that shiny new quarterback.

 

I can now say with all honesty, I am very happy that I am wrong!

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Just now, Green-Ghost said:

I totally agree with this point. Too many people want to be correct because of their ego.  

I was never a Brice Young hater.  I concern was starting him as quarterback and putting him a situation where he is expected to take us to the playoffs and Super Bowl.   
 

How to concern was this: and it is based upon my experience as a Saints fan when Mike Dick was the coach.  Mike traded the Saints future away to get a running back named Ricky Williams. I think we all know how Ricky Williams turned out.
 

I was not comfortable with the Panthers trading away future draft picks to get that shiny new quarterback.

 

I can now say with all honesty, I am very happy that I am wrong!

Why I am tired of correcting the automated, stupid computer, spellcheck.  For example: the computer corrected my spelling of. Mike Ditka to Mike Dick.  I am just going to leave these misspellings.

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2 minutes ago, Green-Ghost said:

when Mike Dick was the coach

 

1 minute ago, Green-Ghost said:

Why I am tired of correcting the automated, stupid computer, spellcheck.  For example: the computer corrected my spelling of. Mike Ditka to Mike Dick.  I am just going to leave these misspellings.

I mean he was a dick, so you're not wrong haha

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3 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

He means playoffs and yeah, the games right now are meaningless in that respect. 

i get what you're saying, but i don't buy it. doesn't matter, though. these games may not matter for us in that way, but they absolutely matter for the teams we are playing. had we just laid down yesterday because "it didn't matter" then philly gets a gimme, which isn't quite fair for the other teams in competition for playoff spots or their division. had we beat them, while it may "not matter" to us, it matters to their record and it effects the playoff landscape. it's just in the spirit of competition. all of it matters.

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7 minutes ago, NAS said:

Bottom line - Bryce has shown he can be a playmaker and not just a game manager.  His recent performances with game on the line show that.  

Bryce Young recent game-winning drive attempts:

  • vs. Saints: 3:26 remaining in the 4th. 4 plays, 64 yards, go-ahead TD.
  • vs. Chiefs: 3:21 remaining in 4th. 5 plays, 49 yards, game-tying TD and two-point conversion.
  • vs. Bucs: 3:05 remaining in 4th. 9 plays, 60 yards, go-ahead TD. Then went 25 yards in 4 plays in OT to set up game-winning field goal before Chuba lost a fumble.
  • vs. Eagles: 2:58 remaining in 4th. 13 plays, 45 yards, go-ahead TD dropped by Legette.

You can't ask for much more than this.  

yeah, that poo he was doing getting out of our end zone...that wasn't a game manager. what we've been seeing week to week isn't "just a game manager". he's had those clutch drives at the end of games where he just dominated. defenses were throwing everything at him and he was just making poo happen. it's something that may not show up in the all precious stats, but when you're watching it and for those guys playing with him and against him, it's crying out more than just a game manager. 

this is a guy that can put the game on his back in crucial moments and make poo happen.

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