XL can’t catch.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Joe Bear said:

The odds on the Jags and Raiders winning another game are infinitely higher than the Panthers winning again.

Well they play each other, so one of them will even out. But you are missing literally the other five 3 win teams too.

[tukafan21]

4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You replied to me as if I made the take. Are you confusing me with someone else?

YOU responded to MY post responding to someone else saying we should trade our 2026 1st for DK by saying how Bryce is the future. 

All I was saying was how no matter what you think about him right now, he hasn't shown near enough to make that trade.  

YOU inserted yourself into a separate discussion about trading that 1st for a WR.  You can't then get upset at me pointing out how my post had nothing to do with Bryce's future in a vacuum but in regards to him not showing enough to trade that future 1st rounder this offseason so we can overpay a WR.

You're basically saying that you can jump into the middle of a separate discussion with a completely irrelevant point, but if someone tries to steer it back to the original point, they're talking nonsense.

You can just admit you didn't read my post and/or the post I was responding to and you jumped the gun on this one, it's okay, nobody is going to fault you for it. 

Edited December 8 by tukafan21

[countryboi]

33 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Thing is he would have been there in the second where we were but for some reason getting that 5th year options was really important to Morgan. 
XL is a second round WR. We just moved up and drafted him in the first. 

The price is paid now, he has to get better. Right now he doesn’t really deserve to be playing 

[Joe Bear]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Well they play each other, so one of them will even out. But you are missing literally the other five 3 win teams too.

Right and every time they win, the Panthers' draft position goes higher. Which would be cool, but it sucks because all these clutch drops, fumbles, missed kicks, missed tackles, missed blocks and missed throws that lead to excruciating loss after excruciating loss have a payout of...

Dan Morgan making a dumbass pick at the top of the draft again. So, while picking high should be great, it's not, because it's not making the team better. It just makes it more embarrassing from August-December of next year. They need to take Tepper and Morgan hunting in April and throw their phones in a lake.

[Chaos]

He’s had some baffling drops, none worse than today. The emerging theme with the team is they will compete, but some skill position players will make a critical mistake costing us a win. And it’s not Bryce. 

[Johnstonny]

Maybe he can hang out with Cooper Kupp in the offseason...he got glue on his hands.

[TD alt]

2 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

And I've said we need that fast quick twitch slot guy as well, but if you draft Burden to be that guy, it still screws us over as we'd have a MASSIVE hole on the outside by still not having a true #1.

And once you then spent back to back 1st rounders on WR, as well as having Coker, plus all the holes in our defense, you're not splashing in free agency to get an outside #1 or using another 1st rounder the following year to get one.

So since you can get those quick twitch slot WRs in the middle rounds or in FA, you don't over draft one at the top of the 1st round just because we need one.

And this isn't an argument for T-Mac, it's an argument about building up a complete roster, not forcing picks to fill a need despite it not being the right draft slot to do so.

I've read analyses saying that Burden is more than a slot guy. 

[Navy_football]

I think Legette will be ok. He's a rookie and wasn't quite ready to be a #1. Diontae Johnson and Adam Thielen were supposed to be the top targets this season. Legette needs a season or two to reach his potential. We still need a faster playmaker though. That player has been missing since Steve Smith. Maybe Tedd Ginn. But his hands were even more suspect.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

I think Legette will be ok. He's a rookie and wasn't quite ready to be a #1. Diontae Johnson and Adam Thielen were supposed to be the top targets this season. Legette needs a season or two to reach his potential. We still need a faster playmaker though. That player has been missing since Steve Smith. Maybe Tedd Ginn. But his hands were even more suspect.

But Ginn could get open a lot more consistently too. He was a better route runner(not saying a lot), as well.

TBH, at this rate I would kill for XL to be as good as Ted Ginn.

[Joe Bear]

Legette gets worse every week. Can't wait for his five drops in six targets against Dallas. Maybe he'll play his way out of the league sooner this way at least.

[The Lobo]

We can hate on XL all we want but if Bryce doesn’t throw that INT, panthers win this game and this drop means nothing. Shoulda, coulda, woulda…Panthers by 21 next week. 

[Hoenheim]

5 hours ago, Growl said:

he can and probably still will develop into a good player

but you consider the kind of QB Bryce is, playing the game with his head, you mesh that with how much synergy he has with Adam theilen, who plays with the same awareness, and you wonder why they didn’t like Ladd McConkey more. 

Because the panthers are obsessed with drafting big ass project wrs  like funchess, Benjamin, Mingo, and Legette. 

They literally never draft polished route runners or guys with excellent hands. They always go for height weight speed.  Pretty simple.

And it's a trend that has existed within the organization with multiple different owners, GMs, and coaching staffs.  The only correlation is the Panthers organization itself somehow. They have a type of WR they fall in love with every time.

[Hoenheim]

7 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

We can hate on XL all we want but if Bryce doesn’t throw that INT, panthers win this game and this drop means nothing. Shoulda, coulda, woulda…Panthers by 21 next week. 

I don't see this being mentioned enough.  Since philly scored off bryces int and we didn't turn philly over, that was the true difference in these game. 

[Aussie Tank]

10 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

We can hate on XL all we want but if Bryce doesn’t throw that INT, panthers win this game and this drop means nothing. Shoulda, coulda, woulda…Panthers by 21 next week. 

This is a cumulative reaction. His drops have been getting worse and this one directly cost us the chance to take the lead