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Legette is horrendous

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4 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

I don't think he's knocking AT. But he is on the backend of his career at this point. We've drafted two receivers in the 2nd round since 2021 (TMJ and Mingo) and one in the first (XL). None of those guys seem to have the ability (at least so far) to live up to their draft slot or even beat out AT for playing time if a GM had to make a roster decsion between them and AT. A 34 yr old possession receiver should not be the clear-cut best receiver on your team if it has been constructed right.

After this game I'd be all in on drafting Tetairoa McMillian if he's on the board when we pick and use the rest of the picks on filling our defensive holes.

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Adam Thielen is a starting WR on every team in the league right now outside of like Minnesota or Cinci. His age is completely irrelevant to how good he’s playing. Plus, the refs swallow the whistle on him because he’s pushing off on every single play but a kindred just call that “awareness”

XL sucks poo for sure but the weak link on this offense is Bryce. 

instrad of whining about XLs drop we need to ask why this offense consigned to struggle to break the 20 point threshold despite the resources invested in it. 

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1 minute ago, Mage said:

The issue is we aren't talking about route-running or things that do take time to develop at the NFL level.  If he simply couldn't separate, I would understand that is something that comes with time.  But we're talking about his hands.  

He's gonna be 24 years old next year.  He was in college for 5 years.  There is a very legit possibility that improving his hands just isn't something in his future.  He's a body-catcher.

He will get better if he wants it. He was a raw prospect. He’s still a rookie in the NFL. Like I said earlier if he was in year 3 and playing like he is now, cut him. 

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Adam Thielen is a starting WR on every team in the league right now outside of like Minnesota or Cinci. His age is completely irrelevant to how good he’s playing. Plus, the refs swallow the whistle on him because he’s pushing off on every single play but a kindred just call that “awareness”

XL sucks poo for sure but the weak link on this offense is Bryce. 

instrad of whining about XLs drop we need to ask why this offense consigned to struggle to break the 20 point threshold despite the resources invested in it. 

Game-winning touchdown being dropped is the WR’s fault. Next. 

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4 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Overreaction much.

Is it?  He had one of the highest drop %s in the NFL coming into this game and had 3 drops this game.  Even if we don't blame him for the first one (and I would agree we shouldn't fault him for that), that is still 1 too many drops for a 1st round WR.

I'm not saying he won't ever get better, although I doubt it.  But right now?  In this very moment?  He is a bad WR.  

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2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Adam Thielen is a starting WR on every team in the league right now outside of like Minnesota or Cinci. His age is completely irrelevant to how good he’s playing. Plus, the refs swallow the whistle on him because he’s pushing off on every single play but a kindred just call that “awareness”

XL sucks poo for sure but the weak link on this offense is Bryce. 

instrad of whining about XLs drop we need to ask why this offense consigned to struggle to break the 20 point threshold despite the resources invested in it. 

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Just now, hepcat said:

He will get better if he wants it. He was a raw prospect. He’s still a rookie in the NFL. Like I said earlier if he was in year 3 and playing like he is now, cut him. 

I don't know man.  I want to agree with you, but hands just aren't something that can be improved overnight no matter how hard you work and we have seen this time and time again.  For 90% of guys, you either have good hands or you don't.  That is why DBs stay DBs. 

Could it happen?  Sure, but I think the Panthers would be making a grave mistake if they go into this offseason banking on Legette being the #1.  

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Is it?  He had one of the highest drop %s in the NFL coming into this game and had 3 drops this game.  Even if we don't blame him for the first one (and I would agree we shouldn't fault him for that), that is still 1 too many drops for a 1st round WR.

I'm not saying he won't ever get better, although I doubt it.  But right now?  In this very moment?  He is a bad WR.  

One of the highest drop percentages? 

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4 minutes ago, KSpan said:

The team scored 16 total points and Legette has sucked like this all year. I didn't watch the game but while you want them to make plays, 16 ain't good enough if you don't want things to come down to the wire.

"I didn't watch the game"

Also, two things can be true at once.  Legette can have had a terrible game AND the offense also could have played better the rest of the game. 

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I'm not done with him but god damn....I agree you give rookies time, but I remember hearing a coach say on TV years ago that in like week 3-4 you make a mistake and its ok...its a rookie, he's young, but by this point in the season there are NO ROOKIES in the locker room anymore.  Team shouldnt be having to tell XL to hit the jugs, he should be doing it on his own.

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2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Adam Thielen is a starting WR on every team in the league right now outside of like Minnesota or Cinci. His age is completely irrelevant to how good he’s playing. Plus, the refs swallow the whistle on him because he’s pushing off on every single play but a kindred just call that “awareness”

XL sucks poo for sure but the weak link on this offense is Bryce. 

instrad of whining about XLs drop we need to ask why this offense consigned to struggle to break the 20 point threshold despite the resources invested in it. 

Calling Bryce the weak link and saying it’s whining to discuss XLs drop is quite the take when those 2 players were directly involved in the game winning play that was not made. Hint, it wasn’t Bryce that fugged it up. 
 

to answer your question about struggling to break 20 points, ever considered it’s because our #1 WR is a rookie who can’t catch? 

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