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2 hours ago, ECHornet said:

Javon Hargrove could be a cap casualty in San Fran. Trade for him and select T Mac or Burden depending on where we land in draft order. 
 

Or figure out a way to trade for Hargrave & sign Higgins. Then we can select Travis Hunter or the best EDGE rusher with our first pick and make a playoff run in 2025. 

I'd rather Milton Williams in FA than Hargrave 

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Mason Graham is the perfect fit. Dude plays angry and would bring more “dawg” to this team. For those saying we don’t need him bc we have Brown, do y’all not remember teams still gashing us up the middle before Brown got hurt? You’d have to double team one of them but couldn’t do both. I get we need edge rushers too but if u are taking BPA, it’d be so hard to pass up on a guy who we know would instantly upgrade this line considerably. Last night when it was looking like we were about to win, I was thinking we’d need a gas mask leak on draft night for him to fall to us. Looks like he’s still within reach!

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11 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

If youre drafting in a top 10 and already have an elite run stuffer, i dont think you want another run stuffer in then top 10. You can get plenty of them in R2-R4. 

This.. didn't the Titans get sweat like in the second round? Guy is one of the best in the league. Hunter is the grand prize of this draft after that edge 

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

This is projecting to be a very weak DE/Edge draft. Not sure there are any truly elite guys.

I disagree. Edge is one of the strong points of this draft. Abdul Carter the guy from Georgia, Pierce, this edge group I think is better than last years

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12 hours ago, OnlyPantherFaninMaine said:

This team is going nowhere until it can stop the run with any sort of consistency. Sick and tired of getting gashed every single week. Graham next to Brown could be an elite duo for years to come in the middle of our defense. I hear the argument for Hunter or Tet loud and clear, but the run defense is the single biggest hindrance to success for this team right now. 

I get your logic and appreciate the level of frustration behind this post--next season, we will have Brown back. That makes everyone on the DL better.    In my view, A'shawn Robinson and Shy Tutttle have underperformed their contracts and one will be released if not both.  Both will be 30 in 2025.  Cutting them saves us about $13m--and I am not sure we can replace them for that.  I think we need a big, 350 lb run stuffer inside.  

If you are drafting early and you need a QB, you almost half to take a QB.  If you need an Edge, you have to take the edge.  While I love the player you mention, I think we get an upgrade vs. the run when we get Brown back.  I also think you draft a DT in round 2 or 3. 

Depending, of course, on what we do in free agency.  Last year, Evero got screwed when all efforts went into the offense.  I was not a huge fan of the Legette pick, but give him time.  I think we got the best RB and second best TE along with a very good (potentially) WR--that is not bad.  This year, we need to address the defense and find a stud WR and mid round QB to develop. 

 

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37 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I disagree. Edge is one of the strong points of this draft. Abdul Carter the guy from Georgia, Pierce, this edge group I think is better than last years

There is an edge from Mississippi that I like, and the big guy from Tex AM (Scourton) has an unreal spin move.  I think we need to draft one in the first round (maybe to his point) because they will be gone by pick 50 or so.  If there is an elite WR sitting there in the first round, depending on what we did in free agency, that could get interesting.

I sorta think the WR group is down, but my favorite in round 2 or so is that WR from Stanford.  A dark horse.

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I am all about this. Weak DE/Edge draft. 

 

Pair Mason Graham with Derrick Brown. Need a CB2, and we are cooking with peanut oil. 

Some of the young edge pieces we have are playing well since getting healthy. 

 

I wouldn't hate a WR, but I think the next step for this team is improving on Defense. 

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      I would understand it--especially if DJ Johnson, Barno, and Wonnum finish strong.  Graham, however, might not be the best fit for Carolina with Brown back.  Our DTs have underperformed (Tuttle, Robinson) and they can be cut and save about $13m, or one can be cut and save $6.5m.  Who might be a better fit than Graham?   Maybe the guy beside him--Graham's sidekick, Kenneth Grant, is also a beast.  You could argue that he benefited by playing with Graham, just as he would in Carolina beside Brown.  However, teams like to double the big NT/3 tech, and if you do that, you get Browned.  Grant is a 340 lb DT who has 3 sacks this year--against Ohio State, Saturday, he had 5 QB pressures--and he has been doing that all year.  They could not block him.  If you want a player who compliments Brown (as opposed to rotating in with him) I would take a long look at Grant--in round two if he is there--after drafting an Edge in round 1.  In my view, THAT would solve the running game issues and give us pocket collapsing pressure up the A gap.  There is also a DT from Kentucky I like in this role, but Graham is good.
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