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2 minutes ago, jamos14 said:

It's a pretty unfair test.   We aren't prepared to match up with Philly.

 

They will run the ball all game,  we cannot stop them.  Time of possession will be lopsided.  We aren't going to be able to run the ball vs them.

   Tons of pressure on the passing game alone to carry vs the best team in the NFC.   That's a lot to ask. 

 

 

He should like a good QB vs them.   But expecting a rabbit being pulled out of his hat is setting him up for failure.  We aren't winning this game no matter how well he plays.

Barkley is going to put up 300 yards rushing on our defense. 

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3 hours ago, frankw said:

Nah son. Some of us are here week to week win or lose. Where were you in weeks 1 and 2?????? Your ass hasn't posted since October. Something tells me folks like you and Chib will be missing come next Sunday evening after our offense faces the #1 Eagles defense.

I’m all for being positive and wishing Bryce the best, but to me, it’s insane people poo all over people who are still not sure about Bryce yet. I mean, did everyone forget all of last year and the first two weeks of this year? Three good games erases that? Not to me. But, I’m still hopeful. It’s perfectly normal to still be on the fence about the guy. And you’re right, this next game will be a big test and he has faced some pretty easy defenses. (I don’t care about the chiefs overall D, their pass d was horrendous. Wide open guys just like yesterday) 

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Just now, The Lobo said:

I’m all for being positive and wishing Bryce the best, but to me, it’s insane people poo all over people who are still not sure about Bryce yet. I mean, did everyone forget all of last year and the first two weeks of this year? Three good games erases that? Not to me. But, I’m still hopeful. It’s perfectly normal to still be on the fence about the guy. And you’re right, this next game will be a big test and he has faced some pretty easy defenses. (I don’t care about the chiefs overall D, their pass d was horrendous. Wide open guys just like yesterday) 

 

I think the people getting the poo posts aren't people who "aren't sure about Bryce yet".   

They are people that are completely denying any growth or positive signs from him.  Acting like it hasn't happened or anybody could do it, etc etc.

 

The majority here still aren't sure if he's the franchise QB but he has earned a the shot to continue his development with us.  

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49 minutes ago, ChibCU said:

Or I'll be driving across the state at that time and won't even be watching the game. If I were, I wouldn't be an irrational idiot moving the goal posts week-to-week regarding what improvement looks like. I was fully ready to move on from Bryce after Week 2. He's done something you don't often see... a near 180 from the lowest point earlier in the season. Him showing improvement, along with our other young talent, should be a welcome sight... not one in which you begin pulling out the microscope to complain like a b all day.

I'm just one of those fans that actually gets excited about team improvements. I also don't have irrational expectations for players/team. One team wins the Super Bowl each year. I don't cry and beat my wife each year that it's not us, because I know it's a sport that has no bearing on my real life. I also don't expect for a player to go out there each week and be flawless. I understand it's a team sport more so than a sport like basketball that can be carried by an all-time great. Some don't share those thoughts, but it gets tiresome when those fools put blinders on to stay in the doom-and-gloom mindset. Miserable existence.

I disagree he's done a full 180. For that he would have to become one of the top 15 QB's in the league. He was the arguably the worst QB in the league just earlier this season. That cannot be understated. Now he's worked his way to decent backup status at this point. He is performing comparably to the likes of Aiden O'Connell. That is the reality as it currently stands.

I do not sit here and tell anyone how to fan. I also do not sit around all day and night pooing posts on the internet that offend me. That's called being a snowflake. I've endured plenty of losing. I know what mediocrity looks like as well. What we are currently witnessing doesn't even fall into the mediocrity category. I've been here and I will remain. Same with the Hornets. If anyone doesn't like me telling it how it is they are welcome to look away.

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40 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

I’m all for being positive and wishing Bryce the best, but to me, it’s insane people poo all over people who are still not sure about Bryce yet. I mean, did everyone forget all of last year and the first two weeks of this year? Three good games erases that? Not to me. But, I’m still hopeful. It’s perfectly normal to still be on the fence about the guy. And you’re right, this next game will be a big test and he has faced some pretty easy defenses. (I don’t care about the chiefs overall D, their pass d was horrendous. Wide open guys just like yesterday) 

Like I said. These people are snowflakes. They need to go just follow the official Panthers social media accounts where it's all sunshine and rainbows and pipe dreams and not wade into the waters where discourse challenges their positions.

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53 minutes ago, frankw said:

I disagree he's done a full 180. For that he would have to become one of the top 15 QB's in the league. He was the arguably the worst QB in the league just earlier this season. That cannot be understated. Now he's worked his way to decent backup status at this point. He is performing comparably to the likes of Aiden O'Connell. That is the reality as it currently stands.

I do not sit here and tell anyone how to fan. I also do not sit around all day and night pooing posts on the internet that offend me. That's called being a snowflake. I've endured plenty of losing. I know what mediocrity looks like as well. What we are currently witnessing doesn't even fall into the mediocrity category. I've been here and I will remain. Same with the Hornets. If anyone doesn't like me telling it how it is they are welcome to look away.

Stopped reading after the first sentence. I said he did a near 180 from earlier and your first sentence rewrites my words. Grasping at technicalities of general statements.

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12 minutes ago, ChibCU said:

Stopped reading after the first sentence. I said he did a near 180 from earlier and your first sentence rewrites my words. Grasping at technicalities of general statements.

Near 180 would still make him a top 20 QB based on the fact that for last season and even this season he has steadily been statistically in the high 30's to 40's amongst all qualified passers.

You can poo every post my guy you are not going to impose your will on anyone here. It's a fan discussion message board. Nobody cares that you can't handle someone having a differing opinion. Have a great day.

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28 minutes ago, frankw said:

Near 180 would still make him a top 20 QB based on the fact that for last season and even this season he has steadily been statistically in the high 30's to 40's amongst all qualified passers.

You can poo every post my guy you are not going to impose your will on anyone here. It's a fan discussion message board. Nobody cares that you can't handle someone having a differing opinion. Have a great day.

 

I'd argue that he has easily been a top 15 player the last several weeks.  In the last two weeks alone, he was equal to Mahomes and outplayed Baker.

PFF says he is #1 in the NFL in "big time throws" the last two weeks.

That doesn't mean it automatically translates to him being better than other QBs in the long term.

But he has looked just as good as any Year 2 QB since he returned to the lineup.    Yes, including Stroud.

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