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When a boy becomes a MAN!

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CPantherKing Grand Master

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29 minutes ago, TD alt said:

I can't say he sucks anymore, and that's saying something. 

He's still inconsistent and loses games. Being happy he doesn't get blown out and ragged dolled is a keeper?

How many years until fans realize Young is a sub par starter and a career back up?

I'll keep watching, but he needs to show he can compete with and beat the best when his team puts him in that position. He's easily replaceable with QBs like Andy Dalton, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Cooper Rush, and rookie QBs. We had PJ Walker doing better than Bryce Young in fewer starts.

This is the hard truth.

If he suddenly becomes consistent, I'll recognize that turn around. I'm just not okay with waiting 4 seasons to see just a little bit of consistency at the QB position.

I expect QBs to show they're clutch by the 2nd year too, and we're still not seeing that from Young.

We're all just happy he's better than the garbage play we saw for a while, and among the bottom 10 starters in the league.

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8 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

 

I expect QBs to show they're clutch by the 2nd year too, and we're still not seeing that from Young.

 

60 yard TD drive with 30 seconds left to take the lead doesn’t count as clutch?

He didn’t lose the game. 
 

you are moving the goalpost 

 

 

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led them to FG range in OT before Chuba fumbled.

 

 

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The stance i have made on bryce applies for the rest of the year. Continue to show growth and be a leader. I don't think anything shown sets things in stone for 4-5 years down the road. I mean obviously the season is already over for us but we still gotta get to point where we see consistent upper echelon qb play and then finally winning these games. I mean thats what we drafted him for and that's what we gotta get. That setup probably not gonna happen until next year when everything starts over from the beginning and the team has more pieces But do what you can right now. I have made it very clear I won't be fooled like the green bay game again. 

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6 minutes ago, jamos14 said:

60 yard TD drive with 30 seconds left to take the lead doesn’t count as clutch?

He didn’t lose the game. 
 

you are moving the goalpost 

 

 

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led them to FG range in OT before Chuba fumbled.

 

 

Some of the people on here just talk crazy lol 

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6 minutes ago, jamos14 said:

60 yard TD drive with 30 seconds left to take the lead doesn’t count as clutch?

He didn’t lose the game. 
 

you are moving the goalpost 

 

 

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led them to FG range in OT before Chuba fumbled.

 

 

Curious...do you think we still drive down the field and score if it wasn't for that kicking penalty?

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People here are delusional.  Look at the tape and tell me what incorrect decisions he made and when.  Where were the wide open receivers he was missing?  He missed one throw in the end zone, that's it. 

 I think he played a good game and is continuing the right trajectory.  Future is bright, you can see he's playing fast and with confidence, the rest will come.  I'm personally more excited than ever, my faith in the front office, coaching and Bryce has been restored. 

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4 minutes ago, frankw said:

It's interesting Chuba is the villain now considering he's been a key reason we were even in those culture building wins against the Saints and Giants that Bryce got credit for.

Exactly. You knew it was coming. Hell, you can't make the argument bryce would fine without chuba. Lol

He is that important.

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1 minute ago, uncfan888 said:

I have no idea what will happen next year. Mainly because I don't think Canales wants Bryce as his qb

I mean what people can't seem to comprehend is that Bryce really put Canales and the whole staff in a bad spot to start the season. It was that BAD to the point where he had to sit him down after 2 games as a new head coach. The offense wasn't even high school good. So it's reasonable he would be skeptic about bryce, this is his job on the line. Only complete fanboys think that's not a big deal. Lol

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