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Can someone explain to me how Cooper’s flip back to Allen for a TD was allowed? Cooper got stopped and was pushed back 3-4 yards. I don’t understand how the play wasn’t ruled down. If he fumbled, play is 100% stopped by forward progress being stopped.

It makes no sense that the play wasn’t stopped. His forward progress was stopped for 3-4 yards before the pitch.

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Russell Wilson over here leading an offense to 44 points while we slogged our way to 23 and had to go to overtime to even get that many. And against the 29th ranked defense haha.

Oh wow digging into the numbers are even worse. Wilson had 8 fewer attempts than Bryce Young yet he finished with 414 passing yards at 10.9 yards per attempt. This guy is 36 years old. Meanwhile we rejoice because our guy at 23 "almost" eclipsed 300 yards passing.

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15 minutes ago, frankw said:

Russell Wilson over here leading an offense to 44 points while we slogged our way to 23 and had to go to overtime to even get that many. And against the 29th ranked defense haha.

Oh wow digging into the numbers are even worse. Wilson had 8 fewer attempts than Bryce Young yet he finished with 414 passing yards at 10.9 yards per attempt. This guy is 36 years old. Meanwhile we rejoice because our guy at 23 "almost" eclipsed 300 yards passing.

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264 YAC for Russ to 112 YAC for Bryce 

152 yard difference 

Russ had 150 completed air yards

Bryce had 186 completed air yards

Some of you are hellbent on seeing Bryce fail. I’d love to see what Bryce could do with a Pickens and Friermuth 

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47 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

264 YAC for Russ to 112 YAC for Bryce 

152 yard difference 

Russ had 150 completed air yards

Bryce had 186 completed air yards

Some of you are hellbent on seeing Bryce fail. I’d love to see what Bryce could do with a Pickens and Friermuth 

Pickens and Freirmuth are good but not great. The common thread is who? Mike Tomlin. Man gets rid of so called talented players like it's another day at the office and keeps on winning. Russell Wilson was laughed out of Denver everyone has said he's washed let's be real here.

Many people have been asking why Bryce had so many attempts and Chuba barely got the ball for the bulk of the game. Pretty plainly obvious Canales was trying to give Bryce some confidence and some glory. Yet once again we maxed out at 14 points from our QB and elected to take him off the field not once but twice on 4th and 1 in opp territory. Face it while he has some upside as a passer between the 20's when it gets down to it in the red zone we remain limited with Bryce at QB. You can incorrectly crow about people wanting him to fail all you want my brother. The situation is the situation.

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11 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Buffalo is just wearing the Niners out. CMC went down with a non-contact injury I think early in the 2nd quarter. This just hasn't been at all competitve.

Yeah, that CMC injury looks like a season ender. I still think he was worth the draft pick, but 49ers fans now know the downsides of having CMC.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/christian-mccaffrey-potentially-out-for-season-with-pcl-injury

 

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16 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

Yeah, that CMC injury looks like a season ender. I still think he was worth the draft pick, but 49ers fans now know the downsides of having CMC.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/christian-mccaffrey-potentially-out-for-season-with-pcl-injury

 

Do like the Panthers did. Your season is cooked. Even if he could potentially come back just leave him on the shelf.

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1 hour ago, frankw said:

Pickens and Freirmuth are good but not great. The common thread is who? Mike Tomlin. Man gets rid of so called talented players like it's another day at the office and keeps on winning. Russell Wilson was laughed out of Denver everyone has said he's washed let's be real here.

Many people have been asking why Bryce had so many attempts and Chuba barely got the ball for the bulk of the game. Pretty plainly obvious Canales was trying to give Bryce some confidence and some glory. Yet once again we maxed out at 14 points from our QB and elected to take him off the field not once but twice on 4th and 1 in opp territory. Face it while he has some upside as a passer between the 20's when it gets down to it in the red zone we remain limited with Bryce at QB. You can incorrectly crow about people wanting him to fail all you want my brother. The situation is the situation.

We’ll just agree to disagree on this whole thing

I was out on Bryce. I needed to see certain things from him this year and these last 5 games he’s done all of it.

Bryce has been taking his shots. Throwing with anticipation and timing. Reading defenses. And extending plays. He’s doing all this with a terrible pass catching group. Pickens is a legit WR1 to say otherwise would be silly. Bryce has shown enough to be semi excited about seeing what he can do with some real weapons imo

The last thing I want to see from Bryce is for him to bulk up a bit this offseason 

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We’ll just agree to disagree on this whole thing

I was out on Bryce. I needed to see certain things from him this year and these last 5 games he’s done all of it.

Bryce has been taking his shots. Throwing with anticipation and timing. Reading defenses. And extending plays. He’s doing all this with a terrible pass catching group. Pickens is a legit WR1 to say otherwise would be silly. Bryce has shown enough to be semi excited about seeing what he can do with some real weapons imo

The last thing I want to see from Bryce is for him to bulk up a bit this offseason 

He's made improvements from the worst QB in the league and as I've stated he looks confident and it's night and day compared to where he was. I am glad to see that. Still these honest conversations have to come down to discussing what is ultimately his ceiling in our offense and what it will require us to further invest in order to have him both meet that ceiling and remain there. If we had scooped him up as a UDFA or took a mid to late round flyer on him that would be one thing. But he is a first overall pick. We've made very significant investments around him already and it looks like we will add even more. At some point he has to ELEVATE the pieces around him instead of the pieces around doing the elevating. If not. We need to have a fallback plan in place.

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24 minutes ago, frankw said:

He's made improvements from the worst QB in the league and as I've stated he looks confident and it's night and day compared to where he was. I am glad to see that. Still these honest conversations have to come down to discussing what is ultimately his ceiling in our offense and what it will require us to further invest in order to have him both meet that ceiling and remain there. If we had scooped him up as a UDFA or took a mid to late round flyer on him that would be one thing. But he is a first overall pick. We've made very significant investments around him already and it looks like we will add even more. At some point he has to ELEVATE the pieces around him instead of the pieces around doing the elevating. If not. We need to have a fallback plan in place.

https://x.com/joshnorris/status/1863599750865436832?s=46&t=W75E23VenL1ei42iX22E5g
 

Josh put together a decent thread here just from yesterdays game

Tommy Tremble who would be lucky to be a TE3 on any other roster in the league had a career high in receiving yards yesterday 

David Moore who is at best a WR5-6 on any other roster is one of Young’s primary targets and continuously drops perfectly thrown balls. 2 yesterday. 1 against KC. 1 touchdown against NO.

I’m honestly not sure what more anyone can want this kid to do with what he has around him 

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10 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

https://x.com/joshnorris/status/1863599750865436832?s=46&t=W75E23VenL1ei42iX22E5g
 

Josh put together a decent thread here just from yesterdays game

Tommy Tremble who would be lucky to be a TE3 on any other roster in the league had a career high in receiving yards yesterday 

David Moore who is at best a WR5-6 on any other roster is one of Young’s primary targets and continuously drops perfectly thrown balls. 2 yesterday. 1 against KC. 1 touchdown against NO.

I’m honestly not sure what more anyone can want this kid to do with what he has around him 

Oh come off it with the sob story. We invested 150 million dollars in two players on the oline for Bryce. No we could not afford to bring in a top WR and TE on top of it. We and him are facing these circumstances because of what we gave up to select him.

1-2 touchdowns per game is the bare minimum for any first round QB let alone a first overall pick. The Bucs gave us numerous gifts yesterday despite us leaving points on the board multiple times including electing to take Bryce Young off the field twice with 1 yard to go in Bucs territory. Right now at best our first overall pick is playing comparably to Aidan O'Connell.

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6 minutes ago, frankw said:

Oh come off it with the sob story. We invested 150 million dollars in two players on the oline for Bryce. No we could not afford to bring in a top WR and TE on top of it. We and him are facing these circumstances because of what we gave up to select him.

1-2 touchdowns per game is the bare minimum for any first round QB let alone a first overall pick. The Bucs gave us numerous gifts yesterday despite us leaving points on the board multiple times including electing to take Bryce Young off the field twice with 1 yard to go in Bucs territory. Right now at best our first overall pick is playing comparably to Aidan O'Connell.

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