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OFFICIAL Panthers vs Buccaneers Gameday thread
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By thunderraiden · Posted
Megatron reincarnated. Pair him with Bryce and watch the touchdowns pile up. -
By CPantherKing · Posted
How many clutch chances did he have in this game? How many short fields? How many drives did he come up clutch? How many passes did he deliver to keep those drives alive? Clutch drives are opening drive, 2 minute drive at half, opening drive in 3Q, comeback drives in 4Q, 4 minute drive to close out a lead in 4Q, short field drives on TO, and GWD. This is why you pay a QB at the pro level. Otherwise, just get an inexpensive Sam Darnold type, stack defense and double down on the running game to carry the QB. Young tanked the opening drive (scripted). Stalled on 2 drives in the final 2 minutes of 2nd half (one was a short field TO chance). Came up empty on the opening drive of the 2nd half. Failed on another short field after a TO. A 3 and out in 4Q while trailing. A go ahead drive for a TD in 4Q with 3 minutes to go. Left too much time on the clock for a 3 point lead. 1 for 7 on clutch drive opportunities & only 2 of 26 completions that resulted in a TD drive. Is this a winning QB, nevermind a championship QB? Consistent success? We can all agree he was inconsistent in the redzone. 3 of 9 for 21 yds and 0 TDs. 1 rushing TD. 4 redzone visits. Is this your standard for a franchise QB? I can't change any goalpost when we're staring at the hard facts and not ignoring everything but the few highlights you're gripping tight to. He is the QB and needs to CONSISTENTLY step up in these moments to be considered a franchise QB. Unless that franchise wants to be a perennial losing organization. The stats and drives would tell us Young was a factor in the loss given his opportunites. Drive enders outside of Young were Hubbard, Moore, Ekwonu, and Hunt. Moore, Ekwonu and Hunt were only responsible for ending 1 drive each. 13 total drives. Young and Hubbard were responsible for killing 8 drives. 27% of drives need to be TDs to be a good team. The Panthers offense led by Young and Hubbard were at 15.4% against the Bucs. Panthers were 17.4% for TD conversion before today and that will be lowered. The Panthers offense was slightly above Giants and Browns level of offensive production against the Bucs. That is a clear perspective of where the key offensive leaders, Young and Hubbard, stand as an offense. Coker, Thielen, and J.Sanders have been successful as receivers, but there is no core leader at receiver with Johnson still being the most targeted receiver going into today's game. The offense converted TDs at a higher rate (20%. Better than the Steelers/Texans and just under the Vikings) with Dalton at QB absent Thielen. Keep that in mind too. Bryce Young highlights and moral victories mean nothing going into year 3. He has every drive to prove himself better than back up QBs in their 30s. Bring performance based numbers and splits to prove these numbers insignificant. He's not going to be ready to compete in the league at a playoff level for at least 4 more years based on his numbers and low rate of improvement. The defense will have to carry a QB on Young's sub par level to win. -
By PadresPanthersFan · Posted
Hubbard was seen as a jag who couldn't block and couldn't catch a cold. Now he's our offensive focal point. Now he had a killer fumble but he put in the work and now he's a viable 3 down rb. If x does the same he can have the same trajectory. He gets open. He's a rz target. He just needs to catch the damn ball. Spend the offseason on the jugs machine and we'll go from there
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