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If you seriously think Stroud looks like Bryce did as a rookie then congratulations you have the same bias as those you constantly accuse others of.

Stroud is 4th in passing yards despite all the circumstances he's faced this season.

Here we rejoice like it's Christmas morning when Bryce manages to cross 250 yards passing in a single game.

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All QBs have limitations 

I guess it becomes how much of the offensive playbook is gutted to accommodate those limitations ..and the world shouldn’t have been given up for a game manager

…but, if he can be enough of a game manager for one season, and allow for BPA in this year’s draft, that’s a win to me as the Panthers have so many holes now.  I’m encouraged that Morgan will fill them

im also encouraged that Canales will move on from Young if, and when, appropriate…as HC, it’s about more than just his Offensive playbook    

I am glad for Young…no harm in being glad for his improvement. 

the tale of  his tape is coming with all but one probable playoff team on the schedule

i would love to see them move on from Evero…even when he had players, there was always a reason they couldn’t get off the field.  Salah, come on down  

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2 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

And still has respectable numbers as a starter while his team is leading the division. What people are doing is comparing this year to the amazing year he had last year and saying he fell off because he isnt doing the exact same thing this year which is ridiculous. Last year was a rare year for a rookie qb you dont see often.  Texans weren't sneaking up anybody this year and it shows, and yet they are still winning. Panther bryce fans need to pipe down. 

This is fake news as Trump would say. Nobody’s comparing seasons the nfl pundits ESPN first take si.com and other outlets are stating what we’re saying in this thread it looks like he’s regressing. Now to address your statement their leading their division ummm have you seen their defensive rankings compared to ours. You’re cherry picking which you can’t do with me I’m not a poster who’s here to argue I like thoughtful in depth convos. They have the 4th ranked defense put that in Carolina don’t you think we’d probably lead our division this year realistically. With the offense you’ve seen the last four weeks being average let’s just say with a 4th ranked defense how’d do you think we’d look or how many more wins would we have? You can’t say oh but they still lead their division knock it off it’s bc they have a terrible division and an elite defense. CJ is dealing with issues Bryce dealt with bad Oline and he has weapons but they’ve missed time and when out he’s looked below average having multiple 2pick games, the man’s had a 4 sack game followed by a 8 I repeat 8 sack game that’s a bad Oline leaving him to regress so Panther Bryce fans can’t pipe down we’re just stating facts bc yes they’re winning with a elite defense give a little more context to your statements it Matters!

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A Quarterback in this mold is and was always going to take a long time to develop. I think he still has quite a bit to go. 

We didn't draft him for his foot speed or arm talent. We drafted him to be the leader and commander of the offensive unit. and he is growing in that capacity on a weekly basis. Being smart and being able to make the correct adjustment and get your team into the right play and being able to get the ball to the right spot is the most important thing an NFL quarterback can do. You can scheme around it, you can simplify, you can try everything, but those skills make a dominant NFL quarterback more than anything else. More than anything else, that's what the Montana's, Brady's, and Manning's do. And those are the ones you want. What we are seeing with Mahomes is a guy that has the brains, unique arm talent, and above average foot speed. He may go down as the greatest. I don't see that in Bryce's future. 

He's got a long way to go, but he's showing he's capable of being that game managing, offense controlling guy.

While that type of quarterback is the most dominant, it also takes the longest to get them game ready, and if they don't ever get to a dominant level, they often don't pan out. So it is a risk. 

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Reason for Stroud's sophomore slump - his oline can't block a beach ball and his receivers can't stay healthy...

I think the Titans had to have about 5 sacks yesterday on Stroud where 1 (if not 2) guys came unblocked on a 4-5 man rush. Looks like Stroud is starting to get happy feet in the pocket also because he knows his oline can't block a soul

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