Serious Thoughts Fellas What numbers would Bryce..

[KillerKat]

4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Unfortunately, 23 games into his career we have yet to see that happen.

IMO, there is nothing else to see. I cannot recall a first round QB ever looking this bad and then subsequently recovering to have an even NFL average starting QB career.

He is very clearly a backup caliber QB at his extreme ceiling. 

We were wrong. A lot of people ended up being wrong. It just is what it is.

yeah, a first overall should be showing signs of leadership, confidence, fire and determination. Things that cant be coached.  None of that I have seen from Bryce at any point.

[*FreeFua*]

On 11/22/2024 at 12:40 PM, PadresPanthersFan said:

Honestly you'll know it when you see it. Stats can lie. But he for me has to pass the eye test. He'll miss throws. The wr will drop balls. But you know a starting qb when you see it. We need to win bc of him. Not in spite of him. 

This

If he continues on the trajectory he has been on these last 3 weeks I’d be completely fine rolling into next season with giving him the whole year 

Stats lie. I just want to see him continue to push the ball downfield when opportunity presents itself. Make a few plays outside the pocket. I’d also like to see him run a bit more tbh

Bryce seems to be more confident these last 3 weeks. You can hear him at the LOS. He isn’t crazy fidgety doing interviews. 

But yeah… we’ll see

Edited 11 hours ago by *FreeFua*

[mrcompletely11]

39 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

yeah, a first overall should be showing signs of leadership, confidence, fire and determination. Things that cant be coached.  None of that I have seen from Bryce at any point.

"yeah, you know, its uh,  its on me, I, uh I have to get better you know, so yeah ummm its uh something I have to work on you know........" (as he rubs his sleeveless arms)

Edited 10 hours ago by mrcompletely11

[Pejorative Miscreant]

If we are still asking this question I think we know how it will end. If we haven’t seen it yet then it is likely unattainable. 
 

Never say never though. 

[PadresPanthersFan]

4 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

This

If he continues on the trajectory he has been on these last 3 weeks I’d be completely fine rolling into next season with giving him the whole year 

Stats lie. I just want to see him continue to push the ball downfield when opportunity presents itself. Make a few plays outside the pocket. I’d also like to see him run a bit more tbh

Bryce seems to be more confident these last 3 weeks. You can hear him at the LOS. He isn’t crazy fidgety doing interviews. 

But yeah… we’ll see

He has been better the past few weeks and I think he had his longest nfl run last week so he is capable.  But the bar he set is subterranean 

Regardless I want more competition for him next year

[strato]

I mean, we are conditioned now to accept a little higher level of subpar play (subpar for a legit NFL starter)  as improvement and proof that he is a real NFL QB. 

When I remember the first game he played I was baffled, totally, at the lack of downfield action, that I blamed it on Reich protecting him. I was basically grasping for any straw to explain it. His first game. There was no Reich protecting him like I thought, Reich simply knew Young could not have success throwing downfield. His stupid slow footwork and weak arm is why, It wasn't to keep him safe. 

How many now, 23 times? That has not changed. We are just conditioned to expect less, because we have been watching SO much less than 'NFL good' play from him.

Now, watching him try to play NFL ball is no longer a foreign and weird experience, because we have seen it 23 times. Conditioned. So you get into relativism or a grading curve or something. Time to wake the fug up and drop these low expectations being his bar for good. 

Edited 6 hours ago by strato

[lightsout]

It's not about numbers or charts. It's film. Film don't lie. Bryce would have to show command of the offense, the ability to be a calm during the chaos and the ability to motivate the offense. Bryce would have to be on the field as the offense moves consistently. If he does that week to week, and the offense can put up 24+ points, I'm happy. Anything less and he ain't it. It's that simple. It's why The Golden Calf of Bristol had the length of time he had. Team did well with him out there. Was he short lived? Absolutely, but that one stretch of games was fun as hell to watch. Bryce has to at least do that. He has to at least be The Golden Calf of Bristol in his prime. Lol Jesus fug the bar is low and Bryce can still walk under it