If you wanted Danny Dimes here’s the chance

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, RJK said:

I wouldn’t mind him as a backup/utility taysom hill type player if he’s cheap 

That would be Justin Fields and he should be VERY cheap.

[kungfoodude]

36 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I'd rather Lock 

Drew Lock is a 3rd string QB, at his maximum potential reached.

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[SmokinwithWilly]

40 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

So, Stafford has literally always been an elite QB. Goff led a team to the SB so at worst he was Matt Ryan/Kirk Cousins tier. Baker was a guy that relatively stabilized the dumpster fire Browns QB situation until they wrongly gave up on him. Still was a Pro Bowl QB in Cleveland.

Smith was a wild success story, however it took many stops and many years to rise to the top.

Darnold is a wild bust that is still a bust, but he happens to be on one of the best teams in the NFL(averaged 1.3 TO's/GM for career, averaging 1.4 TO's/GM this season). Only a complete fool doesn't watch him and see that his ceiling is basically Jameis Winston. 

So....of these, you are banking on the multi-year veteran with many teams that finally made it or the still basically bust that also took multiple years and multiple stops to "make it." 

None of those situations is anything close to Daniel Jones and Carolina.

I'm banking on none of those things. I'm looking at the 2 QBs we have, their performance this year, the FA QB pool, the likelihood of any drafted QB reaching starting readiness by week 1, and asking myself is it possible that Jones could be an improvement over what we currently have at either backup or starter? IMO the answer is sadly yes. Whatever options are better than Jones, you have to seriously look at those as well.  

The goal should always be roster improvement without hindering the ability to build in the future. If Jones takes us from an F to a D minus, and that's the best we can do, we should do it. Is it what anyone really wants? No. But sadly, the Panthers under Tepper has been a poo show and we're in QB limbo due to massive FO failure yet again. 

 

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6 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I was told NFL teams dont tank

When you cut the qb of the worst offense in the NFL, its not tanking.  Its just accepting reality.  

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I'm banking on none of those things. I'm looking at the 2 QBs we have, their performance this year, the FA QB pool, the likelihood of any drafted QB reaching starting readiness by week 1, and asking myself is it possible that Jones could be an improvement over what we currently have at either backup or starter? IMO the answer is sadly yes. Whatever options are better than Jones, you have to seriously look at those as well.  

The goal should always be roster improvement without hindering the ability to build in the future. If Jones takes us from an F to a D minus, and that's the best we can do, we should do it. Is it what anyone really wants? No. But sadly, the Panthers under Tepper has been a poo show and we're in QB limbo due to massive FO failure yet again. 

 

The answer is definitively no.

This is a laughable option.

[MHS831]

NOT at that salary, but at a team friendly deal, we'd be stupid not to give him a chance to compete.  When you don't have a QB, you are in the market for a QB.

Edited 3 hours ago by MHS831

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

The answer is definitively no.

This is a laughable option.

Then what are the options? 

Rolling with Bryce who hasn't produced a 60 minute football game in his career?

Re-signing Dalton to be your 17 game starter at 38 years old?

Fields. Flacco. Darnold. Winston. Wilson. Brisset. Mac Jones. Lance. 

Trading for another team's backup. 

Rookie QB 

 

Serious question man. Daniel Jones is a god awful option but from what I'm looking at, they're all poo sandwiches. 

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6 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I was told NFL teams dont tank

  here's your proof

[MHS831]

5 hours ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

They had until March to release him and save their money. Odd.

I think they saw the QB market as one that would not be good for them when they picked, so they figured the top WRs--a huge need---would be smarter than reaching.  I also know that they tried to upgrade their OL but then lost Barkley--I still think Shoen thought Jones would be better--and then injuries hit the OL and the WR corps struggled-you could argue chicken or the egg, but that was the plan--in my estimation

[CamWhoaaCam]

If you wanted Danny Dimes here, you are the reason this franchise has gone downhill.

 

The fact that this is even a topic is pathetic. This dude is trash he couldn't even beat Bryce Young. So why would we entertain this?

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Then what are the options? 

Rolling with Bryce who hasn't produced a 60 minute football game in his career?

Re-signing Dalton to be your 17 game starter at 38 years old?

Fields. Flacco. Darnold. Winston. Wilson. Brisset. Mac Jones. Lance. 

Trading for another team's backup. 

Rookie QB 

 

Serious question man. Daniel Jones is a god awful option but from what I'm looking at, they're all poo sandwiches. 

See where you draft, see if there is an option. If not, get a Dalton/Flacco PREVIOUSLY SUCCESSFUL veteran to be acceptably mediocre. If you want to gamble on fool's gold(all of the other busts you listed) that's fine, if you take that option first. Outside that, you are just dooming the franchise, the coach, probably the GM, all of our developing young talent and ABSOLUTELY the fans to watching another rebuild start in the 2026 offseason. 

I really am perplexed by the need to chase massively unsuccessful guys when two of the guys you claimed to be worthwhile failed dramatically here(Dalton, Mayfield). 

There is no secret solution to suddenly not being a dumpster fire. Understand that no matter what goes on in the entirety of the 2025 offseason, we will be a bad team that loses plenty of games. This ain't a quick fix. And Daniel Jones is not the kind of player that is going to do well going from one dumpster fire to the next. 

If you like the Dalton and Mayfield examples, where did they go in between? A highly successful franchise that didn't need them to do poo but chill on the bench and get their heads right. We are 180 degrees opposite of that. It's just another recipe for wild failure. 

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

If you wanted Danny Dimes here, you are the reason this franchise has gone downhill.

 

The fact that this is even a topic is pathetic. This dude is trash he couldn't even beat Bryce Young. So why would we entertain this?

What would if matter if he could, probably, barely beat Bryce? He would cost a fuging GRIP of money for the rest of 2024 if we were that retarded. 

And in the offseason, there are other bust options available if you want to get a #2 or #3 option on the cheap. 

[mrcompletely11]

26 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

NOT at that salary, but at a team friendly deal, we'd be stupid not to give him a chance to compete.  When you don't have a QB, you are in the market for a QB.

there is no team friendly deal, he could play for free and its the same result, he fuging sucks