Real Mid-Season Development at QB: Bo Nix

[fanpanther]

Bix has more tds through his first 11 games than bryce has his entire career....no comparison at all he made amazing throws during his first games his decision making just keeps getting better.  Young does not have the physical ability ro make the rhrows bo makes

[7CLOWNS]

1 hour ago, strato said:

What I take away from this is we need to find a Nix to develop. Period. I mean, it has nothing to do with Young who is about as developed as he'll ever be.

“You can learn a lot in 10 games,” Nix said. “[I’m] still learning, still growing, but just finding ways to execute the play that’s called, no matter what it is: run play, pass play. It doesn’t matter. Just finding the right way to go with the ball.”

To that point, Nix noted how his developing partnership with head coach Sean Payton has helped Denver’s offense get to the next level.

“To be honest, I think at the beginning, you kind of make the NFL bigger than what it actually is,” Nix said when asked where he feels he’s made the most strides. “These players are really good, but at the same time, you have really good players on your level. I think simplifying the game, trying to play as fast as possible, and finding a completion, which is what we’ve been able to do here recently.

“I think as we’ve gone on, Coach and I have found a good rhythm of what we both like, what we can kind of put out there on the field, and what we can execute. Then the guys have kind of adapted to it, found our roles within the offense, and executed at a high level. It’s just all about slowing the game down and processing things in a manner that you can handle. Just kind of see one or two things, and let those guys take you to where the ball is supposed to be.” -Bo Nix

From what I'm gathering regarding Bryce, the Panthers entered this season with a reset mindset. It's Young's rookie year, which explains the benching. Now, we're beginning to see the development of Canales and Young's offense. Slow development but we're winning  

[Icege]

One has a proven, offensive-minded, Super Bowl winning head coach along with a top 5 OL + defense. He's being protected and getting the ball back not having to chase the other teams.

The other had Frank Reich + Thomas Brown their rookie year with a bottom 5 defense as well as a bottom 5 OL that gave up the 2nd most sacks against a rookie QB ever. The sophomore season is being ran with a top 5 OL but also with a rookie HC (that has just one year of OC experience) and a bottom 5 defense still.

The Broncos defense has allowed over 20pts just three times this season (26 vs. SEA (L), 23 vs. LAC (L), 41 vs. BAL (L)). Meanwhile, the Panthers have had ONE game where the defense gave up less than 20pts (vs. NYG (W)).  

I'm not sure how folks couldn't expect Bo Nix to statistically perform better given their incredibly different situations. With that said, I didn't expect Nix to keep ascending as impressively as he has this season. Hopefully his arc will give other older college QBs a better shot, especially given the recent media blitz against the NFL regarding how development of the QB position in the league seems to be non-existent. Hopefully Bryce continues to improve as well, of course.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Icege

[kungfoodude]

3 hours ago, CRA said:

I mean, if Bryce Young had games like Nix did even vs Tampa, LV, etc......we would be throwing a party talking about how maybe the pick was worth it. 

Nix vs Young simplified. 

One QB meets all the physical qualities you look for, one had tons of college experience, one is paired up w/ a top tier NFL O mind. 

the other guy lacks a lot of the qualities you look for, played on the best roster in college football, is paired with meh O folks that have changed and changed (3 playcallers already). 

Doesn't really matter it's Young or Nix.  That setup is largely going to play out the way it has. 

I am not sure using one of the biggest QB busts since Josh Rosen is quite the measuring stick I would use for "success."

Also, Nix did not have a lot of the physical abilities you look for. He does have at very, very, very best an NFL average arm. 

TBH, minus the running ability, he is basically what Bryce's rookie year was SUPPOSED to look like. Not too shabby, sees the field pretty well and makes above average decisions with passing the ball. Not a strong arm but adequate.

[strato]

I expect Nix to…. wait. A better way to put it is I don’t expect him to fail because of his obvious physical shortcomings, relative to playing NFL QB   

Yeah he is a rookie. Again. Okay, see the cope there?

One thing has not changed. Young has a fraction (3/4, maybe?) of what these others have as far as a downfield game; no one is afraid he will throw it over their heads and they play him that way.
And this is reflected in the way the offense is called, also. This is a big deal but no let’s ignore it. 

You can see the difference in the offense immediately with Dalton. it is so elemental to football but people want to stay blind to it because they like Bryce or whatever other reason.  

 

Edited 4 hours ago by strato

[Martin]

Nix is a 6’2’’ quarterback with a strong arm. If Bryce magically grows a few inches taller and somehow acquires a strong arm, maybe he can do the same thing. But that would be a medical miracle, so I wouldn’t bet on it.

[Panthero]

I feel like OP is trying to test me personally. Bo Nix left Auburn, therefore he's a traitor. I won't allow any logical arguments to convince me otherwise.

[Shotgun]

5 hours ago, NAS said:

Kind of what happens when you can place a QB in a good situation with a balanced roster and a good coach.   

and the QB has NFL level talent.

[Shotgun]

3 hours ago, Martin said:

Nix is a 6’2’’ quarterback with a strong arm. If Bryce magically grows a few inches taller and somehow acquires a strong arm, maybe he can do the same thing. But that would be a medical miracle, so I wouldn’t bet on it.

Or if he developed Kyler Murray type fast twitch athleticism & arm talent. That would be acceptable as well.

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, Martin said:

Nix is a 6’2’’ quarterback with a strong arm. If Bryce magically grows a few inches taller and somehow acquires a strong arm, maybe he can do the same thing. But that would be a medical miracle, so I wouldn’t bet on it.

I am perplexed by this "Bo Nix strong arm" thing. I am not sure if many people saw him in college, in the combine or certainly the NFL but he does not have anywhere near a "strong" NFL arm. Very much closer to average, if not squarely average.

[45catfan]

QB6 and wouldn't had to have moved back. Sigh.......