Ekwonu

[ECHornet]

2 hours ago, Prowler2k18 said:

I’m hoping Moton will retire a Panther. He’s been a steady presence on that OL for years and it would be ashamed to let him go.

I started a reply talking about his cap hit for next year (~31.5mil). 
 

Looking deeper, releasing him would only save us 17.5mil since ~14mil is signing bonus. 
 

I’ve now switched my thinking to the right choice being keeping Moton through next year. The 17.5mil we would save in releasing him could net a RT in the 8-12ish ranking for the position. So we might as well keep him as a veteran leader and career Panther. A valuable trade offer would be the only reason to move him. 

[mrcompletely11]

19 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

I started a reply talking about his cap hit for next year (~31.5mil). 
 

Looking deeper, releasing him would only save us 17.5mil since ~14mil is signing bonus. 
 

I’ve now switched my thinking to the right choice being keeping Moton through next year. The 17.5mil we would save in releasing him could net a RT in the 8-12ish ranking for the position. So we might as well keep him as a veteran leader and career Panther. A valuable trade offer would be the only reason to move him. 

I think its about 25% we release him, 10% rework his deal and 65% we just let him play out next year and part ways.  The contract timeline and his age match up

[kungfoodude]

21 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

I started a reply talking about his cap hit for next year (~31.5mil). 
 

Looking deeper, releasing him would only save us 17.5mil since ~14mil is signing bonus. 
 

I’ve now switched my thinking to the right choice being keeping Moton through next year. The 17.5mil we would save in releasing him could net a RT in the 8-12ish ranking for the position. So we might as well keep him as a veteran leader and career Panther. A valuable trade offer would be the only reason to move him. 

We will likely extend him, IMO.

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We will likely extend him, IMO.

If we havent done it yet........

[Basbear]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I think its about 25% we release him, 10% rework his deal and 65% we just let him play out next year and part ways.  The contract timeline and his age match up

 

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

We will likely extend him, IMO.

 

Just my "normal" take given Ive never been a super fan of his(why didn't he play LT??). 

Still I think or I would release Motown and use the saved cap space to sign Christ as his replacement. If they found a young promising C all the OL would be under 27 and locked in for the next few years(tag or sign icky). 

[Prowler2k18]

2 hours ago, ECHornet said:

I started a reply talking about his cap hit for next year (~31.5mil). 
 

Looking deeper, releasing him would only save us 17.5mil since ~14mil is signing bonus. 
 

I’ve now switched my thinking to the right choice being keeping Moton through next year. The 17.5mil we would save in releasing him could net a RT in the 8-12ish ranking for the position. So we might as well keep him as a veteran leader and career Panther. A valuable trade offer would be the only reason to move him. 

Keeping him another season or two and drafting his eventual replacement within that same time frame would be the ideal scenario.

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

If we havent done it yet........

We have not.

55 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

 

Just my "normal" take given Ive never been a super fan of his(why didn't he play LT??). 

Still I think or I would release Motown and use the saved cap space to sign Christ as his replacement. If they found a young promising C all the OL would be under 27 and locked in for the next few years(tag or sign icky). 

He wasn't a LT. Simple as that.

BC would be a pretty big downgrade, IMO. He is not bad, but it's a step down. I would rather draft the future at both RT and C.

[Basbear]

23 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We have not.

He wasn't a LT. Simple as that.

BC would be a pretty big downgrade, IMO. He is not bad, but it's a step down. I would rather draft the future at both RT and C.

 

I mean me speaking honestly per normal- RT is not even on my radar for needing fixing....it sorta should be, but I feel its around 20s in "hey this need attention". Motown could have another 5 years of solid play leftd in his body and mind. I know something needs to done with his contract, its had money pushed back into the late years like three times now. He got like a 38 million cap number cause rhule, frittterererer and this past season Dan deferred money. 

I think he's been "healthy" for most of his career and seems to work hard at being able to play. He's a good player to have on the team. I got no idea how this plays out.

 

We need to have friendly bet about Christs next contract- I say he gets 8million per and 40% guaranteed. If he gets below that, you are the true kungfu master- deal? 

Edited Thursday at 09:22 PM by Basbear

[mrcompletely11]

22 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We have not.

All I am saying is IMO if we were going to rework or extend his deal I think it would have happened by now.   Just feels like they are going to bite the bullet and let it run its course

[outlaw4]

Best to see Icky in the position we drafted him in to see if he continues making progress. All signs point to Canales/Morgan staying on board and so decisions on whether to move him elsewhere on the line will probably be done during the offseason.

Personally, I'm more concerned about a more long-term answer at safety and Moton's spot. Love the guy but he's a FA after 2026 and he'll be 32 by then. Kinda has that sign of having to let a player walk one year too early.

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, Basbear said:

 

I mean me speaking honestly per normal- RT is not even on my radar for needing fixing....it sorta should be, but I feel its around 20s in "hey this need attention". Motown could have another 5 years of solid play leftd in his body and mind. I know something needs to done with his contract, its had money pushed back into the late years like three times now. He got like a 38 million cap number cause rhule, frittterererer and this past season Dan deferred money. 

I think he's been "healthy" for most of his career and seems to work hard at being able to play. He's a good player to have on the team. I got no idea how this plays out.

 

We need to have friendly bet about Christs next contract- I say he gets 8million per and 40% guaranteed. If he gets below that, you are the true kungfu master- deal? 

It's not on the radar, until it's a hole. Mind you, solid RT's are certainly easier to find than solid LT's. It's also an area where you should be able to get someone in the late 1st through early 3rd and have them potentially be starting caliber. 

As for BC's contract, are you talking about with us or in general?

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

All I am saying is IMO if we were going to rework or extend his deal I think it would have happened by now.   Just feels like they are going to bite the bullet and let it run its course

That's not necessarily the case and it would also be unwise to just eat a $31.5 mil cap number. The way it is structured, it was intended to be extended.

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, outlaw4 said:

Best to see Icky in the position we drafted him in to see if he continues making progress. All signs point to Canales/Morgan staying on board and so decisions on whether to move him elsewhere on the line will probably be done during the offseason.

Personally, I'm more concerned about a more long-term answer at safety and Moton's spot. Love the guy but he's a FA after 2026 and he'll be 32 by then. Kinda has that sign of having to let a player walk one year too early.

He is a FA after 2025. The 2026 year is just a void year. He isn't on the roster, it's a cap trick.

[outlaw4]

21 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

He is a FA after 2025. The 2026 year is just a void year. He isn't on the roster, it's a cap trick.

More pressing concern, then. I just have this feeling any large extension for Moton is going to bite us.