What franchises are in worse shape than the Panthers

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5 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Well at least not until the Super Bowl

Lol and we can’t even sniff our own division 

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11 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Honestly, the Browns are the only ones I think who are for sure and it's only because the Deshaun trade plus that contract was even worse than the Bruce trade - because of the contract.

I support calling Bryce, Bruce instead. My phone has auto corrected that so many times that I’m tired of fixing it and also it’s a bit appropriate in the sense that Bryce Young is not Batman. 

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11 hours ago, TheBigKat said:

It’s a loaded but rapidly aging/expensive roster

 

If they don’t win it all this year with Mr. Irrelevant then they are cooked

No they aren’t, Kyle Shanahan is a winner. Get this trash out of here. 

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12 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I would disagree. That is an insanely talent filled roster.

According to this guy, they have a lot of big names.  But are not necessarily more talented than other teams.  

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/analyst-questions-the-talent-on-browns-roster/ar-AA1u0MEy?apiversion=v2&noservercache=1&domshim=1&renderwebcomponents=1&wcseo=1&batchservertelemetry=1&noservertelemetry=1

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12 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Good question.

 

Right now most of those teams have talent. Teams like NY and Cleveland just need a franchise QB and they will be in position to do so in the draft.

 

The only team I think are in a worse position than us is the Saints. Bad cap situation with a declining aging QB. They have to start thinking rebuild, but they can't really do that because of their cap situation.

 

 

I agree. Take the Giants, for example. There was a thread about how our 3 rookie WRs/TEs had more yards than Nabers, but they have Nabers, Wandale and Johnson as three 23 (Coker is 23) and under receivers that I would take over ours, mainly because Nabers is a stud. Heck, Jones is absolutely the reason why we beat the Giants. A good QB and we lose easily.

We’ve got some decent young guys, but we are missing a lot and let’s be honest our young guys can be good, but I am not sure I see above average yet, which is top 10 or 12 in the NFL.

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12 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

100%. People are not doing a talent by talent comparison. The only team close is probably the Patriots. They are insanely talent deficient.

But they look like they may have found a QB and all of a sudden they are in games against the Rams and beat up the Bears who throttled us 36-10.

Having a QB that can win you games makes a huge difference than a QB who’s being protected from making multiple red zone interceptions like Daniel Jones.

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10 hours ago, Mother Grabber said:

we’ll see when they play the Lions on Dec 30. CMC has tendinitis, which doesn’t go away. his missed game numbers will just keep piling up.

I don't think it's about that. Also, I don't think they make the playoffs this year.

The bulk of their problems this year have been injuries. That isn't likely to be a continual thing.

They still have the most talented roster in the NFL and do a very good job with draft talent evaluations almost every year. Until that stops, they will largely remaining a contending team. 

Now, there will be a point that they have to make difficult choices(they already have) on the roster much like the Saints did. And if they play the kick the can game too much at some point in the future the bill will have to be paid. But, even with all that, the Saints are still a far more talented team than the Panthers at the moment.

It would take a long time for that to happen in SF.