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Updated 2025 draft order

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20 hours ago, Martin said:

Panthers are starting 2 rookies at WR, 1 rookie at TE, 1 rookie LB, 1 rookie at nickel etc.  Not sure what else they could do to “tank harder”. Not playing the young guys would be moronic.

I don’t think starting rookies = tank per se. We’ve been starting lots of rookies every year since Rhule started. That’s been more of an indictment of how bad our talent pool has gotten. Trading Burns, Diontae, Mingo (lol) and just finally being sellers by not giving up our talent for a crappy QB is more tanking.

Hopefully, we don’t somehow screw it up because damn if there aren’t a poo ton of bad teams this year. Last year we got the number 1 pick, which wasn’t ours anyway, by 2 games. 2nd worst team had 4 wins. There might be 6-7 teams with 3 or less wins this year.

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7 minutes ago, Champagnepapi704 said:

Hopefully we can get in the top 3....

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And the Jags still play the Titans twice, Jets, and Raiders... they're winning at least one of those

If we lose out, we're picking 4th at worst, which in reality, would be like picking the 2nd non QB if the Raiders and Giants are picking before us as they're both going QB.

Draft Tetairoa McMillan no matter what!

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1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

And the Jags still play the Titans twice, Jets, and Raiders... they're winning at least one of those

If we lose out, we're picking 4th at worst, which in reality, would be like picking the 2nd non QB if the Raiders and Giants are picking before us as they're both going QB.

Draft Tetairoa McMillan no matter what!

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Good point I forgot about the Jags and Titans playing each other in the same division. We sitting pretty right now.

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1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Good point I forgot about the Jags and Titans playing each other in the same division. We sitting pretty right now.

I've been saying it for a week or two, that all those teams picking ahead of us when we were sitting 9th in the draft all had games against each other still.

As long as we don't have an unexpected upset, it all comes down to the Dallas game.

Lose to Dallas and we're picking 4th at the very worst, real possibility of anywhere in the Top 4, even 1st.

Beat Dallas but lose out besides that and I still think we end up picking Top 5 in the end as well.

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4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

1 step closer to Tmac

Been trying to speak this into existence since last November

And while the other player I was talking about in that thread didn't become Tank Dell this year like I said, I also said it depended on him going to a team that needed to use him, which didn't happen.  As he ended up getting drafted by the 49ers who have a deep WR room and took a WR in the 1st as well, but he still made the team and is their starting punt returner.

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13 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I've been saying it for a week or two, that all those teams picking ahead of us when we were sitting 9th in the draft all had games against each other still.

As long as we don't have an unexpected upset, it all comes down to the Dallas game.

Lose to Dallas and we're picking 4th at the very worst, real possibility of anywhere in the Top 4, even 1st.

Beat Dallas but lose out besides that and I still think we end up picking Top 5 in the end as well.

I still think New England will be our biggest threat for Tmac. If we can jump them I think Tmac is for sure ours if we want him.

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13 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Been trying to speak this into existence since last November

And while the other player I was talking about in that thread didn't become Tank Dell this year like I said, I also said it depended on him going to a team that needed to use him, which didn't happen.  As he ended up getting drafted by the 49ers who have a deep WR room and took a WR in the 1st as well, but he still made the team and is their starting punt returner.

Good for you putting me on notice. I had no clue about this dude before the college season. I been watching him ever since and I'm sold.

 

I wanted Hunter, but Prime said he will have a say in where he plays as well. So at this point I'm just Tmac or bust.

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13 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Been trying to speak this into existence since last November

And while the other player I was talking about in that thread didn't become Tank Dell this year like I said, I also said it depended on him going to a team that needed to use him, which didn't happen.  As he ended up getting drafted by the 49ers who have a deep WR room and took a WR in the 1st as well, but he still made the team and is their starting punt returner.

Good for you putting me on notice. I had no clue about this dude before the college season. I been watching him ever since and I'm sold.

 

I wanted Hunter, but Prime said he will have a say in where he plays as well. So at this point I'm just Tmac or bust.

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15 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I still think New England will be our biggest threat for Tmac. If we can jump them I think Tmac is for sure ours if we want him.

I do kinda still feel he's destined to go to NE as well, but really only because two of the best Wildcats of all time are also Patriots legends in Gronkowski and Bruschi (plus he's a fit there).

If they're picking ahead of us, I'm hoping they strike out on a LT in free agency, as if they do, they need to protect Maye, that's probably more important for them right now than getting him a WR.

And I still think a defensive pick makes sense with their HC being a former defensive player and them using their 1st on a QB last year.  Two straight Top 5 picks on offense for a defensive HC in his first 2 seasons just seems unlikely as well.

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49 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

And the Jags still play the Titans twice, Jets, and Raiders... they're winning at least one of those

If we lose out, we're picking 4th at worst, which in reality, would be like picking the 2nd non QB if the Raiders and Giants are picking before us as they're both going QB.

Draft Tetairoa McMillan no matter what!

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