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8 minutes ago, Champagnepapi704 said:

Yeah you're just making your own stuff up i said pick the best player thay you want I said nothing about a QB and yes when you continue to play a qb that is struggling that is equivalent to losing with no intent to win

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So you're saying playing a former high draft pick that has had at best mixed success with far more disappointing outings than good ones is tanking, to be clear?

Starting which of these QBs is tanking: the one with a QB rating of 66.9 this season or the one with 79.4?

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1 minute ago, rayzor said:

you think this was intentional?

I know this was intentional. The way Jones was playing it was rubbing off on other players. A bad QB makes you a bad team. Just look at us with Bryce.

 

Bad play rubs off on others around you. It's like a sickness that spreads. Everyone is sick!

 

Damn good for the Giants they did the right thing. They will be rewarded with a franchise QB for it.

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3 minutes ago, rayzor said:

what i don't understand is how you tank. is it an intentional effort to lose? you tell people to fug up? 

Simple

 

A bad QB will rub off on other players. When your leader is stinking up the joint, your troops will do the same. Bad play will spread on the entire team.

 

This is how your RB fumbles in OT on the opening drive. The cancer spreads and Jones was spreading to everyone around him!

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Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

Simple

 

A bad QB will rub off on other players. When your leader is stinking up the joint, your troops will do the same. Bad play will spread on the entire team.

 

This is how your RB fumbles in OT on the opening drive. The cancer spreads and Jones was spreading to everyone around him!

Was it or was it not an intentional fumble?

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3 minutes ago, rayzor said:

this is great stuff i'm seeing in here. 

keep bringing it. 

I was always GREAT I don't need your validation.

 

I'm the best poster on this site in my mind. Others can disagree it's fine. But I know nobody knows more football than me.

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Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

I know this was intentional. The way Jones was playing it was rubbing off on other players. A bad QB makes you a bad team. Just look at us with Bryce.

Bad play rubs off on others around you. It's like a sickness that spreads. Everyone is sick!

Damn good for the Giants they did the right thing. They will be rewarded with a franchise QB for it.

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so Daniel Jones is leading the team to deliberately and intentionally perform poorly? they are making a collective conscientious decision to drop balls and fug up. 

they made the conscientious decision decision to lose? 

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4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Simple

 

A bad QB will rub off on other players. When your leader is stinking up the joint, your troops will do the same. Bad play will spread on the entire team.

 

This is how your RB fumbles in OT on the opening drive. The cancer spreads and Jones was spreading to everyone around him!

so was it intentional? 

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1 minute ago, rayzor said:

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so Daniel Jones is leading the team to deliberately and intentionally perform poorly? they are making a collective conscientious decision to drop balls and fug up. 

they made the conscientious decision decision to lose? 

You got it. Thanks for answering your own question.

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    • Well, we got our answer on Army today.
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