Updated 2025 draft order

[strato]

1 hour ago, Paa Langfart said:

Call me crazy but I dont think we have improved.  I think a lot of NFL teams have radically regressed.

I looked at the standings earlier. Just a glut of bad teams with 2-3 wins.

You can see it on the field. The CBA is a big part of it - talk about coddling. You can't drill up a good team, they have to get good in season. Somehow. 

Things will change at the bottom with probably a lot of those teams playing each other etc, but this may be a little bit unlucky in that there are so many bad teams. We might fall down the list farther than we deserve. 

 

 

[Swaggasaurus]

1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

Have you looked at this class?  You have Ward, who is the only one I would trust. Then you have two wildcards in Ewers and Sanders.  Beyond that you have to hope there's an Allen, Mahomes or Jackson  outside of the top 5-10 picks that are diamonds in the rough.  It's not there, it simply isn't.  There's some guys who may develop into a solid backup or possibly decent starter given plenty of time, but a sure fire franchise guy--Ward is the only likely prospect in this draft.  Even then he's not a generational talent and will need a solid support system to be successful. 

There is risk at every pick. Safe ones bust all the time too. My point being, no QB in the last 4 drafts aside from Daniels has panned out as a sure fire hit. We can’t assume 26 and 27 QB will be any better. Cam Ward and Sanders elevate their teams and have a toolbox that Bryce doesn’t have. They have the confidence you want as well. If the staff is convicted on either they have to go with it. If not then fine. I don’t agree with forcing it, but I also don’t agree with assuming Patrick Mahomes Jr falls in our laps next year. 

Edited November 11 by Swaggasaurus

[mav1234]

51 minutes ago, Champagnepapi704 said:

So that's the goal see progress against bad teams, forget showing improvement against teams that are actually good. You must think bullying is OK also. Watch what playoff teams think about your progress.

You have to start by beating someone. We 'won' the draft a couple years ago, and what did that do for us?

If you can't beat bad teams, you don't beat good ones, either. A QB isn't a player in a vacuum. 

[Champagnepapi704]

Half the huddle

The point is you hinder your opportunity to improve by racking up meaningless wins versus some feel good story about winning against the giants who took you to OT despite being down double digits was a fumble away from a rookie and possibly beating you. Rather be in control of selecting a top prospect versus accepting the leftovers

But yay Bryce won against the giants we won. 

 

 

[Champagnepapi704]

By the way 

How is 32 yards in the 2nd half "progress"

[Jon Snow]

If you can't win it all you don't even want to try to win is what I'm hearing from the crowd. Sounds kinda childish if you ask me. Please take your toys and go home.

[Champagnepapi704]

16 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

If you can't win it all you don't even want to try to win is what I'm hearing from the crowd. Sounds kinda childish if you ask me. Please take your toys and go home.

I'll take being competitive against playoff teams rather than squeak a win against the giants and banged up taints

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Champagnepapi704 said:

I'll take being competitive against playoff teams rather than squeak a win against the giants and banged up taints

I see you're going home. 

[mav1234]

34 minutes ago, Champagnepapi704 said:

By the way 

How is 32 yards in the 2nd half "progress"

This may be hard for some Panthers fans to fathom, but BY is not the only player that matters.

[Sir Purr]

The good ol tanking idiots are at it again I see.  Some things never change. 

Didn't realize how many cuckolds are on here. 

[Champagnepapi704]

9 minutes ago, Sir Purr said:

The good ol tanking idiots are at it again I see.  Some things never change. 

Didn't realize how many cuckolds are on here. 

 

11 minutes ago, Sir Purr said:

The good ol tanking idiots are at it again I see.  Some things never change. 

Didn't realize how many cuckolds are on here. 

Reading is hard for you I see 

 

[Champagnepapi704]

11 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

This may be hard for some Panthers fans to fathom, but BY is not the only player that matters.

Yes our #1 pick that we traded up for throwing 32 yards in a half doesn't matter

[Champagnepapi704]

18 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I see you're going home. 

I see you like mediocrity 

 

[Jon Snow]

Just now, Champagnepapi704 said:

I see you like mediocrity 

 

I see you think you're important and your opinion matters. Have fun with that.