Who wants Bryce to fail?

[Gapanthersfan]

18 minutes ago, strato said:

I think we really need Andy to come in and remind everyone what it is supposed to look like. He's had his rest. And if he can't then we'd better find someone. Because Bryce as an NFL QB is down here and even a top 20 NFL QB is way up there. 

The difference would be analogous to comparing the economies of Guam to California. 

We have to resign Horn. This franchise has waited decades for someone like him. He is better than Gamble. His dad has probably groomed him for this since he was a kid. Joe Horn was no slouch. Jaycee talks the talk and walks the walk. He’ll jaw with Payton. He’ll rush the field and bow up with a lineman to protect his teammates. Nabers who? 50 yards on the day. No TDs. 

 Can this team handle signing both Andy and possibly the best CB in the league in the same year? Do we option Horn? 

If the team knows that Andy is gone, do they continue with Bryce for now so he can improve? It’s an odd situation we find ourselves in. 

[fanpanther]

I want young to play probowl level or fail miserably.  I do not want him to play just good enough to make the panthers decide to ride with him for a while or even extend him.  Pretty much daniel jones is a prime example of what happens when the qb plays just good enough to think he is the solution.

[Jon Snow]

12 minutes ago, fanpanther said:

I want young to play probowl level or fail miserably.  I do not want him to play just good enough to make the panthers decide to ride with him for a while or even extend him.  Pretty much daniel jones is a prime example of what happens when the qb plays just good enough to think he is the solution.

How do you propose to change that? Or should I say stop Tepper from allowing that to happen?

Edited Monday at 08:12 PM by Jon Snow

[Khyber53]

I don't want the guy to fail. I really don't want that for anyone. Have I thought he wasn't the guy and that this was a total swing and miss? Yep and I've said it often. So very often.

Would it hurt me to be wrong, dead wrong? Not one bit. I'd happily chirp about how wrong I was. 

So, he's apparently maturing and the time on the bench seemed to have helped. We've got a bye week and then a game against the World Champ Chiefs coming up. Is he going to play lights out in that one? No chance really, they are the world champs for a reason. But if I can just seem him limit his mistakes, recognize a handful of opportunities and make the most of them, then I'll keep feeling that maybe Canales is helping turn the kid into a QB.

But let's get real, really real. QB ain't our only problem. It's a big shiny jangly one, but this is a team that has a bunch of young guys, a couple of good players and a bunch of guys that would have trouble earning a roster spot elsewhere. And we've got to grow the good and be able to figure out which ones are weeds the need to be yanked out and which ones are the good shoots that just need to be tended to carefully.

We are at the bottom end of the league, have been here for some time now. Down at the bottom of the well there are three groups: those sinking down fast, those that are long-term bottom dwellers and those that are finally starting to claw their way back up through the mud and muck to the light.

The last two weeks have made our long-term bottom dwelling asses look like we are finally starting to claw our way back up. We're going to lose games to the mid to good teams, but we can and should be able to beat the other bottom dwellers and whoop those coming down to climb over their bodies on our way back up. New Orleans and New York just got pushed down and scrambled over. 

KC will kill us, but maybe we can catch a couple more of those sinkers and stand on them. If we can do that, we will be moving into and then past survivor mode. And maybe that quiet, little and timid QB might find something in himself once he has a few more teams under his feet.

That well is mighty deep, though. It could take time. Detroit didn't get there over night, and neither did Kansas City.

[Luciu5]

On 11/10/2024 at 3:19 PM, mrcompletely11 said:

Legit is 80 yards?

NFL average is approx 240 passing yds per game. That's an average of 60 yds per quarter, fyi.

[strato]

4 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

The difference would be analogous to comparing the economies of Guam to California. 

We have to resign Horn. This franchise has waited decades for someone like him. He is better than Gamble. His dad has probably groomed him for this since he was a kid. Joe Horn was no slouch. Jaycee talks the talk and walks the walk. He’ll jaw with Payton. He’ll rush the field and bow up with a lineman to protect his teammates. Nabers who? 50 yards on the day. No TDs. 

 Can this team handle signing both Andy and possibly the best CB in the league in the same year? Do we option Horn? 

If the team knows that Andy is gone, do they continue with Bryce for now so he can improve? It’s an odd situation we find ourselves in. 

So you are saying to pay Jaycee we have to keep Bryce at QB?

I am gonna miss Jaycee.

[strato]

3 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

I don't want the guy to fail. I really don't want that for anyone. Have I thought he wasn't the guy and that this was a total swing and miss? Yep and I've said it often. So very often.

Would it hurt me to be wrong, dead wrong? Not one bit. I'd happily chirp about how wrong I was. 

So, he's apparently maturing and the time on the bench seemed to have helped. We've got a bye week and then a game against the World Champ Chiefs coming up. Is he going to play lights out in that one? No chance really, they are the world champs for a reason. But if I can just seem him limit his mistakes, recognize a handful of opportunities and make the most of them, then I'll keep feeling that maybe Canales is helping turn the kid into a QB.

But let's get real, really real. QB ain't our only problem. It's a big shiny jangly one, but this is a team that has a bunch of young guys, a couple of good players and a bunch of guys that would have trouble earning a roster spot elsewhere. And we've got to grow the good and be able to figure out which ones are weeds the need to be yanked out and which ones are the good shoots that just need to be tended to carefully.

We are at the bottom end of the league, have been here for some time now. Down at the bottom of the well there are three groups: those sinking down fast, those that are long-term bottom dwellers and those that are finally starting to claw their way back up through the mud and muck to the light.

The last two weeks have made our long-term bottom dwelling asses look like we are finally starting to claw our way back up. We're going to lose games to the mid to good teams, but we can and should be able to beat the other bottom dwellers and whoop those coming down to climb over their bodies on our way back up. New Orleans and New York just got pushed down and scrambled over. 

KC will kill us, but maybe we can catch a couple more of those sinkers and stand on them. If we can do that, we will be moving into and then past survivor mode. And maybe that quiet, little and timid QB might find something in himself once he has a few more teams under his feet.

That well is mighty deep, though. It could take time. Detroit didn't get there over night, and neither did Kansas City.

This is how it starts.  It spreads fast too.  
Talking yourself into it. 

Edited Monday at 11:43 PM by strato

[Gapanthersfan]

40 minutes ago, strato said:

So you are saying to pay Jaycee we have to keep Bryce at QB?

I am gonna miss Jaycee.

it’s complete speculation from me, of course, but we’re going to have to put a Brinks truck in Jaycee’s driveway. I was, and still am, concerned that he’ll want to go to a contender. Can’t really blame him, but you have to think Morgan loves the dude. 

I just don’t see how they can sign a top CB and QB right now. I could see them putting the option on Horn…

or, they have no intention of keeping Andy and can go full on trying to extend Horn since Bryce has now shown the ability to at least complete a pass. They may be cool with rolling him in to next season as the new bridge QB. Draft a flier QB that has all the physical tools and let him and Bryce compete in camp. 

So Sanders, Thielen, Dalton and please God Thomas gone. Welcome back Jaycee.