15/25, 126

[Jackson113.2]

[hepcat]

47 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

He literally air mailed what could have been a game sealing screen pass. 

what game are you watching 

lol for real. Bryce made a handful of good throws in this game. I will give him that. The sideline throw to Legette was legit. He’s also missing a ton of throws and open receivers. The offense moves in spite of him sometimes. 

[The Lobo]

9 minutes ago, hepcat said:

lol for real. Bryce made a handful of good throws in this game. I will give him that. The sideline throw to Legette was legit. He’s also missing a ton of throws and open receivers. The offense moves in spite of him sometimes. 

Most of his throws just feel like they having in the air too long, it’s hard to explain. 

[Loyalty4Life]

17 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

We have Dalton and possibly Plummer ATM. Neither are great options. The time to address this was in the off season when we actively chose to not bring in any real competition. Bryce played Josh Rosen level bad last year. 1st pick or not, you can't just hand the starting position to that level of QB play and be taken seriously. After the 1st 2 games he was benched and many were blaming the supporting cast, but then Dalton lit up the Raiders with the same cast. If you're willing to bench him 2 games into the season, you're openly admitting he wasn't ready to be the only option at starter. 

We have no good options right now and that is a huge failure of the FO. We didn't win today because of BY, we won in spite of him. Chuba carried this team. Bryce did nothing extraordinary. He played a game you would expect to see from any backup QB in the league. If the Giants D wasn't so horrible against the run, do you think BY would have been able to put 300 yards and 3 scores on the board? I don't and that's my problem. When the game is on the line, and we saw it twice today (Coker and Chuba) he couldn't make the pass. That's a basic NFL pass. Daboll didn't respect him enough and punted away with 3 minutes on the clock and had the ball back in under a minute. 

Maybe I'm wrong and BY becomes great and that would be the best thing for the team and I will happily eat crow. The worst thing is he becomes mediocre and we consider that success and stop trying to get better at the position and we live every year somewhere between 6-8 wins. 

A new coach coming in after what I think was one of the biggest clusters of a team last year and giving your first overall QB a chance isn't to crazy.  You really don't know until you get on the field and Canales saw what we all saw.  Bryce Young was not good enough to start. 

But Canales, the staff and numerous other coaches who called about trading for BY thought he might be salvageable.  

I agree with you that I don't think it smart or probable that BW would put up 300 yards and 3td.  That is why Canales isn't asking or expecting him to do that.  Yet.

And even that "Yet" is just a possibility but it's too freaking hard to find a QB in the NFL and there were to many other factors last year to say BW is a total bust and move on.  Especially when moving on right now means a big trade, some QB off a practice squad or running with some UDFA.

The worst thing would be stuck in 6-8 wins a season but that would be a hell of a lot better than the last few year but I get and agree with your point.  My point is simply that the possibility that BW turns it around and becomes a good QB is much more likely than Dalton or any other QB we could get giving us a better chance to win games and improve long term.

The only thing I've continued to preach is he's the best option currently and going forward but that doesn't mean we don't bring in other players to improve and get better.  History has shown that this place is ready to cut bait way to early on players with little regard to the alternative, or other factors that play a role in a players success.

I'd love to enjoy a win without being told repeatedly over and over by the same people why we are still a failure.  The whole yeah we won but...

I'm not arguing and I don't think anyone else actually thinks that your QB throwing for 126 yards is a recipe for winning but I think most people would like to feel good about a win instead of focusing on the host of things we need to continue to improve upon to be a yearly contender.  Trust me, no one is going to forget we still have a long way to go.

[CBDellinger]

https://x.com/qanthers/status/1855675341269881327?s=46&t=jd8HHtSduJ48HZz9hHA3Sg

 

This is all that matters

[FuFuLamePoo]

Look I am not a Bryce truther I think he’s a backup at best still.

But BUDDY this lacks a ton of context. We were playing with a double digit lead for much of the game and Canales really closed the playbook. Which I really don’t get because Bryce looked confident and in rhythm today. When we did go back to the pass at times there were crucial drops that killed drives. I remember Coker not coming away with one that wasn’t the easiest catch but still one he needs to make. That would have been a solid 15 yard gain and new set of downs. Then Legette had another brutal drop that would have been like a 7-8 yard gain to set up a third and short. 

Now I’m all for entertaining if Canales game script today speaks to the trust/confidence he has in Bryce. But can yall just enjoy something for just a little while?

[electro's horse]

I like how everyone, in a thread about Bryce young, prefaces their post by saying “I’m not saying he’s good BUT”

[Loyalty4Life]

9 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

I like how everyone, in a thread about Bryce young, prefaces their post by saying “I’m not saying he’s good BUT”

I'd be saying the same thing about Coker, XL, Sanders if there were 10 threads a weeks saying how they are not playing well enough to win playoffs games and never will.  No chance. 

If I started a thread about how good XL has looked and what an awesome sideline catch he had only to have 10 people come in yelling about the drop he had and no actual quality NFL receiver could drop a pass that easy to catch we'd have what we have here every week with Bryce.

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

I'd be saying the same thing about Coker, XL, Sanders if there were 10 threads a weeks saying how they are not playing well enough to win playoffs games and never will.  No chance. 

If I started a thread about how good XL has looked and what an awesome sideline catch he had only to have 10 people come in yelling about the drop he had and no actual quality NFL receiver could drop a pass that easy to catch we'd have what we have here every week with Bryce.

Were any of them drafted first overall?

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, Loyalty4Life said:

I'd be saying the same thing about Coker, XL, Sanders if there were 10 threads a weeks saying how they are not playing well enough to win playoffs games and never will.  No chance. 

Why do you keep talking about other players in a Bryce young thread 

make a thread about Jalen Coker if you want and see how it goes instead of imagining an outcome and arguing against it

i can promise no one is going to be upset about the production from an UDFA, especially when he’s looking like a steal, especially compared to the biggest draft bust in nfl history. 

[Paa Langfart]

I didn't watch the game, don't have nfl channel nor would I have if I did.  Call me a miserable person  like I have heard thrown out there by a couple folks are disappointed we aren't all gushing about Bryce and the team but its damn difficult to be excited or happy about a win over a last place team when all that win is going to do is help whittle down your teams chances of filling one of a multitude of holes in the roster come the draft.  Including the number one hole the team has at qb. 

It's obvious we made a major whiff in picking the short scrawny kid with no fire or obvious leadership skills in a man's man sort of game.  I see nothing wrong with continuing to point it out.  

Edited November 10 by Paa Langfart

[Loyalty4Life]

4 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Why do you keep talking about other players in a Bryce young thread 

make a thread about Jalen Coker if you want and see how it goes instead of imagining an outcome and arguing against it

i can promise no one is going to be upset about the production from an UDFA, especially when he’s looking like a steal, especially compared to the biggest draft bust in nfl history. 

Because the subject of this thread is your passive aggressive stance on BW and for the tendency of the huddle to piss on players they conclude are not worth a continued investment based on the current situation. 

It's about fans enjoying this win and coming to the huddle to celebrate that win with fellow panther fans only to see yet another thread from a BW hater that is a backhanded, passive aggressive insult. 

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Because the subject of this thread is your passive aggressive stance on BW and for the tendency of the huddle to piss on players they conclude are not worth a continued investment based on the current situation. 

It's about fans enjoying this win and coming to the huddle to celebrate that win with fellow panther fans only to see yet another thread from a BW hater that is a backhanded, passive aggressive insult. 

Oh he’s making it about me. Who’s rereg are you?

Go make a thread about how great Bryce did today. No one is stopping you. 

[Paa Langfart]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Youre congratulating Bryce on running an anemic offense his inadequacies force them to run. 

Bingo