BREAKING:Panthers re-sign Chuba Hubbard

[ForJimmy]

25 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

This is WAY closer to the Falcons drafting Penix after signing Cousins than the Lions drafting Gibbs after signing Montgomery.

Poor allocation of assets across the full roster given where we are as a franchise and state of the roster

One team used a 1st on a RB then extended a vet to a decent contact.  We used a mid 2nd on a RB then extended our vet to a decent contract.  The Lions are actually allocating MORE to their RB room in this scenario.  The fact that you are comparing a $15 million guaranteed contract to the Cousins contract and a mid 2nd to a top 10 pick is just absurd...  I'm not entertaining that.

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, pantherclaw said:

The Baltimore Ravens have the top offense in the league.  The biggest reasons for that is their run game. 

Yes, were not there yet, but you can't ever expect to get anywhere if you keep taking key performances parts off the machine. 

The biggest reason is they have a 2x mvp

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, ChibCU said:

I think this past offseason was the RB market floor. Teams with run-first offenses are thriving again now that teams went small in their front 7 personnel. RB market trends back up I bet.

again, I dont think this was a bad deal money wise all things considered but there is no way he is getting that contract on the open market

[ECHornet]

Chuba showed up to camp looking like he had worked all off season to build himself into a workhorse RB. His play is showing that paid off. He’s also somehow improved his hands which is very difficult to do at that point in a career. I’m glad we’re keeping a hard worker who’s performing and seems to be great in the locker room. 
 

I’ll let y’all keep whining though and discussing Sanders like his contract isn’t easy to escape this offseason. 

[HPPantherzfan]

Double Trouble 2.0!  I like it!

[jayboogieman]

Donnelly isn't wrong here and says what some of us have been saying.

[Eazy-E]

2 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

You're making a Gross assumption.  

They aren't abeling anybody a starter. 

1st and foremost.  Depending on 1 running back and expecting to have a strong running game is foolish. Period. 

2nd. Chubby has earned his contract. 

3rd Brooks has proven what? You need multiple backs in this league. This definitely spells the end of Sanders. 

 

You are proving my point. If you draft an injured running back in the second round you must believe he has the potential to be a feature back. A team as bad as the Panthers has to be looking to draft starters with their top 3 picks. Extending Chuba indicates he’s the top dog which means we spent a high second round pick on a backup. They will rarely be on the field at the same time. That is poor roster management.

If this team already had a dynamic offense that’d be one thing but we don’t. We are not in the position to be making luxury picks when there’s holes all over the roster.

[strato]

1 hour ago, frankw said:

Lamar Jackson.

They have a Lamborghini we have a tiny Fiat 2 seater.

Heh. We have motorcycle and a side car like Barney Fife. 
 

As far as it goes, they don’t know what they have in Brooks so maybe they were willing to go a little more on Chuba, lacking the leverage he might have provided with a strong couple of games in the can. 
 

He was gon g to get paid something pretty good by someone so what people are doing is freaking over something like 1% of the cap they might have ‘overpaid’. Maybe a couple of mil per season. That is the difference here between a reasonable deal and this travesty, isn’t it? 

[SOJA]

I really like Chuba, this is a fair deal for both sides and I think it's important as an organization to send a message that we retain our home grown talented players who do the right things. 

 

FURTHER and what I haven't seen yet is: A few years ago we decided not to trade Burns and instead of signing him RIGHT THEN we waited and ultimately took a big loss on the compensation. We clearly learned from that. If you aren't going to trade someone then re-sign them. That is good business in my mind. 

[strato]

6 hours ago, NorthTryon said:

Even with that one, Kamara was a mess at Tennessee. He fumbled every fifteen carries like clock work, had suspect hands, and was very frail/fragile. When he come out of the gate playing like he did for New Orleans, everybody was surprised. Don't get me wrong, there has been good RB talent all throughout and after the draft over the years. But when you have a chance to get that difference maker, you take him. Last week, watching Gibbs run that 76 yard touchdown validated everyone in Detroit for taking him top ten. That is four/five passes Goff doesn't have to throw, o-line doesn't have to block, plays kept in the vault, and it demoralizes defenses! There are maybe 3 guys in the NFL that could've made that play and because of plays like that I will never buy into that narrative of RBs are a dime a dozen.

I don't think I was aware of his injury or fumble issues. I saw him looking good when I was looking at RBs and wanted to take him.

[Basbear]

@CRA @ForJimmy

 

My issue is why didn't the panther just offer the miles Sanders deal to huddard? I know why, they viewed miles as the better player..

Why did they use a lower 2nd on RB with the 20 other holes while they had huddard and sanders and blacksen? I know they had brooks as the higher ranked player.

Just very odd it came to this, another take that's similar to mine- 

> Pay Miles Sanders 25 mill

> Bench him for chuba hubbard

> Hubbard is the only good player on your team

> Draft RB w/ torn acl in the 2nd RD on a team w/ 0 good players

> ACL RB never plays

> Pay Hubbard 33 million

 

They have not evolved. And like the process above, they are still confused.

 

Im about 70/30 against this. I just didn't want to pay RBs until they are truly elite, Hubbard is upper good. 

That 30% is due to hubbard getting better each year and playing hard while the team is sucking ass at 1-12. Many of the players praised his work ethic and such. He is one of around 7 players that act like pros with the record being sub .200 

Dan has a good draft class in the making(needs 2 more like them with UFDA success), but he's still thinking like a 90s GM. 

[ForJimmy]

22 minutes ago, Basbear said:

@CRA @ForJimmy

 

My issue is why didn't the panther just offer the miles Sanders deal to huddard? I know why, they viewed miles as the better player..

Why did they use a lower 2nd on RB with the 20 other holes while they had huddard and sanders and blacksen? I know they had brooks as the higher ranked player.

Just very odd it came to this, another take that's similar to mine- 

> Pay Miles Sanders 25 mill

> Bench him for chuba hubbard

> Hubbard is the only good player on your team

> Draft RB w/ torn acl in the 2nd RD on a team w/ 0 good players

> ACL RB never plays

> Pay Hubbard 33 million

 

They have not evolved. And like the process above, they are still confused.

 

Im about 70/30 against this. I just didn't want to pay RBs until they are truly elite, Hubbard is upper good. 

That 30% is due to hubbard getting better each year and playing hard while the team is sucking ass at 1-12. Many of the players praised his work ethic and such. He is one of around 7 players that act like pros with the record being sub .200 

Dan has a good draft class in the making(needs 2 more like them with UFDA success), but he's still thinking like a 90s GM. 

Miles was originally going to be our feature back. Chuba outplayed him and earned the right to start over him. Now Chuba is a top 10 RB and he got an extension with a guarantee of 15 million dollars. Chuba is a good leader on this team to help establish a new culture of hard work and earning your roster spot. He is also a very good player on a roster without many good players. So we signed him to a 4 year deal that clearly has an easy out in there judging by the guaranteed money. Rewarding hard work and retaining a player like Chuba is a good thing. 

[OldhamA]

9 hours ago, ImfromClayton said:

He's definitely earned it. I don't love giving money to a RB on second contract, but I'll take it here. 

Or taking a RB in the 2nd round if you're going to pay your incumbent RB.

[CRA]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Miles was originally going to be our feature back. Chuba outplayed him and earned the right to start over him. Now Chuba is a top 10 RB and he got an extension with a guarantee of 15 million dollars. Chuba is a good leader on this team to help establish a new culture of hard work and earning your roster spot. He is also a very good player on a roster without many good players. So we signed him to a 4 year deal that clearly has an easy out in there judging by the guaranteed money. Rewarding hard work and retaining a player like Chuba is a good thing. 

In a vacuum I agree,  but given where we are as a franchise? I don’t like putting money in 2nd contracts for RBs…especially when you just drafted the “best RB in the draft”.   That Chubba money could go to all the billion other holes and we don’t have lots of money