BREAKING:Panthers re-sign Chuba Hubbard

[CPantherKing]

This is what a good situational change of pace RB gets now?

He's not an every down feature back for 4 years.

[KillerKat]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

@CRA @ForJimmy

 

My issue is why didn't the panther just offer the miles Sanders deal to huddard? I know why, they viewed miles as the better player..

Why did they use a lower 2nd on RB with the 20 other holes while they had huddard and sanders and blacksen? I know they had brooks as the higher ranked player.

Just very odd it came to this, another take that's similar to mine- 

> Pay Miles Sanders 25 mill

> Bench him for chuba hubbard

> Hubbard is the only good player on your team

> Draft RB w/ torn acl in the 2nd RD on a team w/ 0 good players

> ACL RB never plays

> Pay Hubbard 33 million

 

They have not evolved. And like the process above, they are still confused.

 

Im about 70/30 against this. I just didn't want to pay RBs until they are truly elite, Hubbard is upper good. 

That 30% is due to hubbard getting better each year and playing hard while the team is sucking ass at 1-12. Many of the players praised his work ethic and such. He is one of around 7 players that act like pros with the record being sub .200 

Dan has a good draft class in the making(needs 2 more like them with UFDA success), but he's still thinking like a 90s GM. 

yeah i guess this means Brooks will be unable to surpass Hubbard now due to the contract.

[bigjohn]

I think this is a good thing. Rather extend someone home grown who has worked and steadily improved than some hired gun from somewhere else.

At some point we have to keep some foundations to build on. Chuba, Horn, Brown, I like some of these young kids from this draft.  Baby steps…

[strato]

1 hour ago, CPantherKing said:

This is what a good situational change of pace RB gets now?

He's not an every down feature back for 4 years.

I am thinking, 17 games. Maybe going to 18. Two backs. 1A 1B. And what you pay for them is cumulative so if you have a talented back you got in the draft you can be sitting pretty, really (paying one a higher salary).

Looking at the long game is hard, I have been frustrated by no Brooks but if he shines for the next 3 years I'll forget that. And then Chuba, that could be pretty strong. 

Edited 12 hours ago by strato

[Loyalty4Life]

I love paying guys who prove themselves coming into their prime.  Also, it very easy to structure a 4 years deal with 15 guaranteed to be very team friendly and good for both sides.  It's pretty much 12-15th ranked RB money.  We also traded around in that round and got an extra 2nd rounder next year and still got Brooks, who I might add would have been an easy first round pick had it not been for the injury. 

It's still all educated guesses but you've adding some cover you ass insurance with these moves in case of injury or just being wrong about a guys talent.  Longer seasons.  You had in all these factors together and this is exactly the kind of move very smart GM's make. 

I forgot to add how much Canales uses RB's in his system in the run and pass games.    Chubba is currently tied with Legette for 2nd on the team in receptions.  He is one behind Sanders for 3rd in targets.

Canales also loves efficiency and his 5 ypc are elite. And that isn't to say about the guy as a teammate and team leader.  That's worth money too.

ESPECIALLY, when you are a bad team and you're a new coach trying to build a new culture.

Hell, man could be the lynch pin to this team's chemistry.  Unless Dave and Dan make some extremely stupid move they deserve to build this team like they think is best.  

Keep pounding.

[pantherclaw]

6 hours ago, frankw said:

Lamar Jackson.

They have a Lamborghini we have a tiny Fiat 2 seater.

Thanks for proving you're not paying attention.  

[outlaw4]

Proven player, not a huge amount of guaranteed money and if Brooks can contribute, then limits wear and tear and lowers risk of injury, so we can get the best out of him. Compared to all the other contracts we've done here and others across the league recently, this seems more of the routine run-of-the-mill variety. 

[kungfoodude]

Happy for Chuba and he earned the money for sure. 

Not pumped about going from big RB contract to big RB contract and absolutely FLABBERGASTED that we spent a 2nd round pick on Brooks now. That was utterly moronic.

If you want a capable 2nd string RB, get them in the 3rd-5th round. You know.....like Chuba.

[CarolinaLivin]

14 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Happy for Chuba and he earned the money for sure. 

Not pumped about going from big RB contract to big RB contract and absolutely FLABBERGASTED that we spent a 2nd round pick on Brooks now. That was utterly moronic.

If you want a capable 2nd string RB, get them in the 3rd-5th round. You know.....like Chuba.

Literally where i am at with this. I mean its hard to hate chuba. But this was a bad business move.

[MechaZain]

19 hours ago, travisura said:

You'd think that Panthers fans of all people would understand the value of having two starting caliber RBs on the roster.

Starting calibur is not good enough. You can find that without giving up three picks for a guy who's going to miss a year. And those picks are critical given the current state of the roster. Brooks has to be elite or he is wasteful luxury pick for a franchise that can't afford it right now.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Literally where i am at with this. I mean its hard to hate chuba. But this was a bad business move.

You apparently doubted Chuba's future enough to draft his replacement but then decided you were wrong? I mean....I guess kudos on adapting on the fly but maybe focus more on making better offseason decisions.

[CarolinaLivin]

11 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

You apparently doubted Chuba's future enough to draft his replacement but then decided you were wrong? I mean....I guess kudos on adapting on the fly but maybe focus more on making better offseason decisions.

Yeah and for those saying its a culture move... what culture do we currently have that we are worried about messing up. Plus if chuba is the make or break for our culture... regardless, bad move. I would have preferred to let chuba walk, reduce sanders snaps to 0 since we couldn't showcase his no talent enough for a trade, and play chuba/brooks/Dillon Johnson (on our practice squad), see what we have with the young guys, and make a decision in the offseason. 

Edited 3 hours ago by CarolinaLivin

[MechaZain]

17 minutes ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Yeah and for those saying its a culture move... what culture do we currently have that we are worried about messing up.

A culture where talented players want to leave.  You can't be a poverty franchise and lowball the few guys actually doing their job.

[45catfan]

At bit more than I feel we should have paid him.  As has been stated, the second contract for RBs is their payday.  So I get why it's not cheap.  All I'm going to say is this role as a complimentary back could have been gotten much cheaper if Chubba hit the market and let another team give him his big payday. 

Edited 2 hours ago by 45catfan