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BREAKING:Panthers re-sign Chuba Hubbard

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8ish million a year is reasonable. We don't have a great history long term with paying backs second contracts. I like Chuba a lot as a player and a person so I hope he balls out and we don't regret it. But no one here can predict the future. We just have to wait and see how it pans out.

If I have one issue with this contract it's the fact that our offense is still bottom of the league despite this signing. Obviously that's not because of Hubbard. But we have got to start getting some production from the QB room or purge the whole damn thing.

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I understand why people are against this move.  Generally, I'd agree.  BUT - this is a Panthers team that is pretty bare.  Of talent.  Of leadership.  Of pride.

Does signing Chuba immediately fix all of this?  No, of course not!

This shows that if you produce, you get rewarded.  Chuba is the absolute DAWG of a leader this team needs.  Yes, rookie RBs are a dime a dozen.  But Chuba went from a "WTF, Matt Rhule's wife???" to a high level RB in the NFL.  He's 25, and doesn't have that much milage on the tires.

You can't just import talent, or trade it away.  You have to retain it.  Hubbard is having a great season, he's turned into a reliable pass catcher out of the backfield from a complete liability.  He was a pretty bad pass blocker into a reasonable one.  He is an example of a guy who has put in the work.  

That's a great guy to have on the team.  This is who the rookies should look to for leadership.  I'm cool with it, and I'm happy for Hubbard!

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2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

It wouldn't look so bad if they didn't already have an overpaid Miles Sanders taking up $6M per on the roster. 

Yeah but Sanders is gone after this year and Brooks is a rookie just making his debut after recovering from knee surgery. For a team that places emphasis on running the ball, this is a good move to build depth now. And let’s not forget, we got Brooks on a rookie contract, so we got at least 3-4 years before sinking $$$ into the position again.

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11 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Yeah hope this 2back system brings many wins like people keep comparing to other teams.

 

Problem is we lack talent on defense this won't result in wins. I hate the timing this could have been done in the off-season and we could have had more options. If Brooks balled out we could have used that money on a defensive starter. RBs come and go.

There’s been a resurgence in value of running backs this year, our offense is predicated on running the ball. I would rather resign our own draft pick than waste money on a free agent like we did with Sanders

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7 minutes ago, NAS said:

There’s been a resurgence in value of running backs this year, our offense is predicated on running the ball. I would rather resign our own draft pick than waste money on a free agent like we did with Sanders

True. And there’s been an increasing emphasis of using RBs in the passing game, which is Brooks’ strength. When I watch his tape, he reminds me of another Longhorn alumni - Jamal Charles. If we can get anything close to that kind of success from Brooks, our backfield is set for a while and our offense will be potent.

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9 minutes ago, NAS said:

There’s been a resurgence in value of running backs this year, our offense is predicated on running the ball. I would rather resign our own draft pick than waste money on a free agent like we did with Sanders

So why draft a RB with a valuable 2nd rd pick?

 

We keep investing in RBs year after year. The wins are not coming.

 

I get your point of view I just don't agree with the timing of this signing. We should have waited to see how Brooks looked. People forget he was the first RB off the board. This dude might be a game changer. That Chubba money could have been spent on a defensive starter.

 

I guess people feel differently...

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    • ForJimmy
      BREAKING:Panthers re-sign Chuba Hubbard

      By ForJimmy · Posted

      You keep rounding up to $10 in order to exaggerate your point which usually means your point is very strong.  Bijan is making 5.5 millions a year to Chuba's 8.5 and they used an absolute premium pick on him in a top 10 pick.  That pick vs were we picked Chuba or even Brooks are two very different draft prospects.  Chuba has the attitude and skillset we want to build a better team and culture.  He has shown he can be a top RB and we are paying him a moderate salary. You also need to look at the contract again.  Only $15 million is guaranteed.  It could look very similar to that Henry 2 year $16 million dollar one you are suggesting we do instead.  Always look at the guaranteed vs the total money.  If Chuba gets the total money he is cooking and we are happy.   You want us to use assets elsewhere because we have so many holes but you also want us to draft another WR in the first, probably top 5 this year will all of the other holes we have on the roster.  To me those two opinions don't line up.  Back to back 1st round picks on WRs when we have so many holes.  I think we are just keeping good young players that want to be here and Chuba fits the mold.  TMac could also fit that mold.  
    • Ricky Prickles
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      By Ricky Prickles · Posted

      I dont believe Bryce is the future at all but I also dont believe we should use a first on Sanders or Ward. Grab someone later in the draft or wait until next year is what I would do but if I were always right I would be a GM so theres that too I guess.
    • oceans_1
      Why are we wasting money on RBs? Not even 2 years and we overpaid for 2 RBs!

      By oceans_1 · Posted

      I swear there are like 6 people on this godforsaken website that must be paid just to piss and moan all day in these stupid ass threads, for years on end, about fugging everything. Always something to whine about. If y'all aren't getting paid to professionally bitch about this team at every opportunity you need to reevaluate your lives because that ish is pathetic for grown ass men to be doing.  There are at least 50 other voices of reason in here. They're all smarter than you kneejerking perpetual contrarians. It's a fine contract. Our previous dipstick GM ran this team like some college kid that read a few Investopedia articles on technical trading and started throwing daddy's money at every positive indicator he saw - look what happened when Fitt drafted by RAS because he couldn't identify talent if it was footballs deep in his wife in the war room. It's a football team and this preoccupation with analytics, in this instance the positional value of RBs, is like 30% of the equation. It's not wholly inaccurate, but it requires a lot of context and, going back to the trading analogy, an understanding of the fundamentals. This is a sad, crappy organization that needs some winning attitudes in the locker room and on the field. $15 mil guaranteed over two years is nothing compared to the intangible value he brings, and the message the contract sends, not to mention his stellar work ethic and consistent improvement. 
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