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BREAKING:Panthers re-sign Chuba Hubbard


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8 minutes ago, countryboi said:

You do when you’re trying to establish a culture. When you tell the media that you wanna a team full of dogs, you have to pay those dogs for their work hard

We are trying to create a winning culture by doing things that winning teams don't do? I am not mad at the extension. It's just not the move I would have made.

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1 hour ago, X-Clown said:

I am seeing 4 years, 33.2 million with 15 million guaranteed per Ian Rapoport

https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1854536482125447332

 

My rule (but nobody listens!!) is to never give a second contract to a RB--this one is decent.  Always remember, contracts are not rewards--they are for expected future performance, everyone!  On offense, with Brooks, Chuba could earn this contract--so I will hold my breath.  I also think we have all the pieces in place--except a QB==on offense.

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9 minutes ago, CarolinaLivin said:

We are trying to create a winning culture by doing things that winning teams don't do? I am not mad at the extension. It's just not the move I would have made.

It's a culture move investing in a football player, not a running back (Even though, yes, he is a running back, but chuba the football player earned a payday).

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Not bad and we got it done before FA started. Brooks could very well end up being good and at the same time end up being a bust because of injury history.  

Chuba has displayed special qualities for a RB do that's atleast worth resigning. 

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23 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

Sanders is gone next season. You draft a mid to late rounder to be your back up like every other successful franchise does.

If Brooks pans out Chuba just becomes Miles Sanders part 2.

Ok Sanders is gone Brooks goes down and the draft pick SUCKS what do you do?? People just assume draft picks are gonna be good lol. We've let EVERY good player we've had go assuming we can replace them. It just doesn't work like that that's why we are talent deficient now!! 

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2 minutes ago, BullCityP said:

Ok Sanders is gone Brooks goes down and the draft pick SUCKS what do you do?? People just assume draft picks are gonna be good lol. We've let EVERY good player we've had go assuming we can replace them. It just doesn't work like that that's why we are talent deficient now!! 

One of the reasons people devalue the position is you can find RBs fairly easily. With a good OL it gets easier too. 

I want a banger bruiser type in the mix too lol. 

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5 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

It's a culture move investing in a football player, not a running back.

That's like saying Rhule drafted a football player, not a long snapper (joke).

Position does have to play a role in this. I just don't think its a move we should have made. Is it a culture move? Sure I'll agree on that. Was it the right move? I guess we will have to watch it play out and see.

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Just now, strato said:

One of the reasons people devalue the position is you can find RBs fairly easily. With a good OL it gets easier too. 

I want a banger bruiser type in the mix too lol. 

Yea people think you can find GOOD running backs easy when that's not the case lol. You see Dallas fans crying for a rb Cincinnati let theirs walk now they had to trade for one, the Giants let theirs walk and you see what that looks like. 

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1 minute ago, BullCityP said:

Yea people think you can find GOOD running backs easy when that's not the case lol. You see Dallas fans crying for a rb Cincinnati let theirs walk now they had to trade for one, the Giants let theirs walk and you see what that looks like. 

Well Dallas basically said fug RB after we drafted brooks. Not sure if they are a good example. They could've used a late round pick. Some of those late round RBs are playing pretty good. They just went all in on the ghosts of elliott and cook for some reason. 

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Kinda torn on this one. Generally I think it's a bad idea to pay FA RBs. On the other hand, this deal is really not bad at all.

Was expecting him to get around 5 year, 55-60 mill as a FA. 4 years with only 15 guaranteed is very reasonable. Even if he completely flops, it won't hurt the team that much. And if he balls out at maxes out the deal, it's still only a little over $8 mill a year at most. Honestly, don't hate it.

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