Anyone else tired of this mindset?

[Swarly]

Situation: Player X sucked while playing for *random team*

Panthers fan mindset: Player X just wasn't in the right situation there. He just needs a change of scenery, he'd be great here! Let's give up one of our few draft picks for him!

[Guest silver82blade]

it happens from time to time. randy moss is probably the most well known example. i wouldn't build a whole team off it, but if the scouts do their jobs properly and decide it's worth a shot, why not?

[nosuchthingasapanther]

this mindset isn't limited to just panther fans.

[pstall]

As a guy who has coached a few sports and several age groups, I don't mind this at all.

I had kids that either the coach gave up on them or they clashed and they would quit or go out for a new team the following year and then blow up.

Chemistry, communication, knowing somebody believes in you can make a ton of difference. Coach em up still works.

[SmootsDaddy89]

Not really, because it's often true.

[Brokenbad]

What dont you bozos (silverblade, number28) get about KP30's post here? Hes talking about picking up Marcus Hudson, Wallace Wright and alike. He is making a point that we give up draft pick for lousy players instead of trading for someone good and proven like say: Boldin, Marshall, Holmes, etc....

[CharlotteBeer.com]

I agree with everyone before me, save for the OP.

[pstall]

What dont you bozos get about KP30's post here? Hes talking about picking up Marcus Hudson, Wallace Wright and alike. He is making a point that we give up draft pick for lousy players instead of trading for someone good and proven like say: Boldin, Marshall, Holmes, etc....

Proven to be expensive. Based on the CBA and what the front office is thinking, you have to maximize value for today and tomorrow.

Do I like the way they are doing this? Not really. Do I understand financially? You bet your PE Ratio I do.

[Zcustom]

umm, we didn't give up any picks for those guys

and that's clearly not what he's talking about

bozo

[CharlotteBeer.com]

What dont you bozos get about KP30's post here? Hes talking about picking up Marcus Hudson, Wallace Wright and alike. He is making a point that we give up draft pick for lousy players instead of trading for someone good and proven like say: Boldin, Marshall, Holmes, etc....

Um, no, I don't think that's what he's getting at.

He's probably talking about us clamoring to pick up players from other teams who we think might excel here (see Jason Campbell, Ted Ginn, David Carr, etc.).

Hudson, Wright and these special teamers were brought on because of how they have played, not because we think they'll play better. They are going to be good special teamers, and probably little more than that.

[Brokenbad]

umm, we didn't give up any picks for those guys

and that's clearly not what he's talking about

bozo

Ok bad choice of players mentioned, Tank Tyler for example?

[Guest silver82blade]

the op just got done talking for half an hour in another thread about how we shouldn't want to trade for ted ginn jr. i think that's what sparked this thread.

[Brokenbad]

Um, no, I don't think that's what he's getting at.

He's probably talking about us clamoring to pick up players from other teams who we think might excel here (see Jason Campbell, Ted Ginn, David Carr, etc.).

Hudson, Wright and these special teamers were brought on because of how they have played, not because we think they'll play better. They are going to be good special teamers, and probably little more than that.

This is what I meant. You have a better way with words than I do.

[Swarly]

Um, no, I don't think that's what he's getting at.

He's probably talking about us clamoring to pick up players from other teams who we think might excel here (see Jason Campbell, Ted Ginn, David Carr, etc.).

Hudson, Wright and these special teamers were brought on because of how they have played, not because we think they'll play better. They are going to be good special teamers, and probably little more than that.

^^ That's what I made the thread for

Sorry that I don't advocate giving up draft picks for players that have been mediocre since entering the league(save for Campbell, who has been average.)

and the Randy Moss situation isn't comparable to Ginn. Moss established a HOF career in Minnesota. He simply didn't want to play in Oakland and didn't try. None of these guys deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as him.