Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Anyone else tired of this mindset?


Swarly

Recommended Posts

Situation: Player X sucked while playing for *random team*

Panthers fan mindset: Player X just wasn't in the right situation there. He just needs a change of scenery, he'd be great here! Let's give up one of our few draft picks for him!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest silver82blade

it happens from time to time. randy moss is probably the most well known example. i wouldn't build a whole team off it, but if the scouts do their jobs properly and decide it's worth a shot, why not?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As a guy who has coached a few sports and several age groups, I don't mind this at all.

I had kids that either the coach gave up on them or they clashed and they would quit or go out for a new team the following year and then blow up.

Chemistry, communication, knowing somebody believes in you can make a ton of difference. Coach em up still works.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

What dont you bozos (silverblade, number28) get about KP30's post here? Hes talking about picking up Marcus Hudson, Wallace Wright and alike. He is making a point that we give up draft pick for lousy players instead of trading for someone good and proven like say: Boldin, Marshall, Holmes, etc....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

What dont you bozos get about KP30's post here? Hes talking about picking up Marcus Hudson, Wallace Wright and alike. He is making a point that we give up draft pick for lousy players instead of trading for someone good and proven like say: Boldin, Marshall, Holmes, etc....

Proven to be expensive. Based on the CBA and what the front office is thinking, you have to maximize value for today and tomorrow.

Do I like the way they are doing this? Not really. Do I understand financially? You bet your PE Ratio I do.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

What dont you bozos get about KP30's post here? Hes talking about picking up Marcus Hudson, Wallace Wright and alike. He is making a point that we give up draft pick for lousy players instead of trading for someone good and proven like say: Boldin, Marshall, Holmes, etc....

Um, no, I don't think that's what he's getting at.

He's probably talking about us clamoring to pick up players from other teams who we think might excel here (see Jason Campbell, Ted Ginn, David Carr, etc.).

Hudson, Wright and these special teamers were brought on because of how they have played, not because we think they'll play better. They are going to be good special teamers, and probably little more than that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest silver82blade

the op just got done talking for half an hour in another thread about how we shouldn't want to trade for ted ginn jr. i think that's what sparked this thread.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Um, no, I don't think that's what he's getting at.

He's probably talking about us clamoring to pick up players from other teams who we think might excel here (see Jason Campbell, Ted Ginn, David Carr, etc.).

Hudson, Wright and these special teamers were brought on because of how they have played, not because we think they'll play better. They are going to be good special teamers, and probably little more than that.

This is what I meant. You have a better way with words than I do.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Um, no, I don't think that's what he's getting at.

He's probably talking about us clamoring to pick up players from other teams who we think might excel here (see Jason Campbell, Ted Ginn, David Carr, etc.).

Hudson, Wright and these special teamers were brought on because of how they have played, not because we think they'll play better. They are going to be good special teamers, and probably little more than that.

^^ That's what I made the thread for

Sorry that I don't advocate giving up draft picks for players that have been mediocre since entering the league(save for Campbell, who has been average.)

and the Randy Moss situation isn't comparable to Ginn. Moss established a HOF career in Minnesota. He simply didn't want to play in Oakland and didn't try. None of these guys deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • As we look at these prospects, I can never quite grasp which “edge” projects as a 4-3 end and which projects as a 3-4 olb. Is there even a distinction anymore? I always think of the smaller Von Millers and Micah Parsons as the 3-4 OLB types and I’m thinking someone like Peppers as the 4-3 end but then I guess Peppers played OLB in GB.  It also seems like the OLBs end up walking up to the line half of the time.  Anyone have any tips on discerning the difference, especially in Evero’s defense?
    • Poor kid. Here's hoping he someday gets a chance. In the meantime, someone else will be getting an opportunity and hopefully they can make the most of it.  
    • This is it. The Panthers don't have the draft picks or salary cap to approach the offseason position-by-position. That's for teams much further along. They'll have to address "mission areas" rather than individuals, and they'll need to be creative rather than taking a linear approach. I'd add "improve the pass rush: as 1B with "improving the run defense" as 1A. Trying to upgrade every weak position is just not feasible. It'll take 2 or 3 great drafts. For instance, a guy like Luvu that can play the run and rush the QB would be huge in both areas. A fix? No. But a definite improvement. We're focused on a WR1, when a guy like CMC would provide a playmaking option that defenses will have to account for in the passing and running game. And I think an explosive playmaker is more important than adding another guy that can catch the ball in traffic. We have that in spades. Can't solve this riddle in one offseason without taking away from current areas of strength. It's a puzzle that won't be easy to solve. And they'll need to be future focused while being current competent.  My opinions/approach: I'm thinking the focus should be on defensive players that are good at both the run and pass pressure rather than specialists. A stout run-stopping OLB that can also pressure the QB is the better option for the Panthers right now, rather than a sack specialist. We had a pure pass rusher with Burns. Teams just ran the ball at him and took him out of games. A DT that can consistently get in the backfield and disrupt plays rather than a run stuffing NT is probably a better option for the Panthers right now too - Mason Graham. That addresses both the pass and run. Neither of these players would have great numbers, but they'd improve the defense and force offenses to scheme rather than just impose their will. That's when we'll see what Evero is really about. A later round speed WR that forces defenses to keep a safety over the top would really open up the offense - a Ted Ginn Jr type. Maybe a true pass receiving RB that can make guys miss in the open field. These guys aren't usually conventional early round draft picks but they'll improve the team in mission areas rather than focus areas. 
×
×
  • Create New...