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Bryce Young QB School

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5 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Its........I mean.........I just cant

When throwing from a clean pocket, he is the 7th ranked passer in the NFL over the past few seasons.  You are seeing him in the worst case scenario.  You will see him (Sunday) with Nabers and a few others, no real running game,  No real TEs, and an improved but average OL that has been banged up.  He is a big QB that can run and if given time, he can throw dimes.  You have to have vision--and be willing to take a chance on a veteran---the trend in the NFL has been these unloved stocks have done well when put in the best situation for their skills--better than rookie QBs.   I see why you say that--but the skill set is there.

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When throwing from a clean pocket, he is the 7th ranked passer in the NFL over the past few seasons.  You are seeing him in the worst case scenario.  You will see him (Sunday) with Nabers and a few others, no real running game,  No real TEs, and an improved but average OL that has been banged up.  He is a big QB that can run and if given time, he can throw dimes.  You have to have vision--and be willing to take a chance on a veteran---the trend in the NFL has been these unloved stocks have done well when put in the best situation for their skills--better than rookie QBs.   I see why you say that--but the skill set is there.

That part is true and we know this because two of them were here. And the guy we hired has a record with those types. Vets. It should be a consideration. edit: not just him, or specifically him. Any and all who fit the description should be considered. 

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12 hours ago, MHS831 said:

 trend in the NFL has been these unloved stocks have done well when put in the best situation for their skills--better than rookie QBs.   I see why you say that--but the skill set is there.

Baker has won one playoff game and Darnold had a good first half of a season, not unlike his tenure here. 
Jameis Winston still sucks. What other top 3 picks are still relevant that makes this a “trend”?

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10 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

If Cam Ward can be anything like Lamar Jackson it's not even a conversation if you should move on from bryce. Thats who he reminds me of in the league right now. 

Cam is my favorite prospect but he isn't nearly as elusive as Lamar.  Putting that bar over his head isn't really fair.  I think they are similar in pocket navigation and how they throw the ball.  They both kind of slow it down and looked relaxed back there with plenty of arm power to get off balance throws where they need to go.

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9 minutes ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

Baker has won one playoff game and Darnold had a good first half of a season, not unlike his tenure here. 
Jameis Winston still sucks. What other top 3 picks are still relevant that makes this a “trend”?

It's definitely a trend, see Carr and Rodgers, Cousins, too. But multiple of those teams also drafted a young QB to groom. And as you highlighted the trend isn't really leading yet to sustained post season success.

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11 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

If Cam Ward can be anything like Lamar Jackson it's not even a conversation if you should move on from bryce. Thats who he reminds me of in the league right now. 

Cam Ward is not anything like Lamar Jackson. They are very different players.

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