It's not just the Panthers... the NFL sucks at developing young QBs "it's a systemic problem"

[L-TownCat]

4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is only going to keep getting worse with NIL and the transfer portal the way it currently is. Now if a guy isn't getting the PT he wants right now or has an opportunity to go to a bigger higher profile program there's a good chance he's gonna transfer out to the highest bidder. College systems are probably going to get even further simplified because now you're dealing with even more years over year roster turnover. There isn't development, everything has to be focused on plug and play. But again, that's not the fault of college coaches. They're not making the rules. They're just trying to do everything they can to win college football games within the structure of the rules they're given to abide by.

Oh absolutely, it’s both good for the college game and bad for the future all at the same time.  Toss in the rule changes and inconsistency from the zebras week to week and the fundamentals will soon be a distant memory to the watered-down product they call “football”.

[Ghostofdelhomme]

Who has the advantage in the college-ification of the NfL, the defense or offense?

Edited 3 hours ago by Ghostofdelhomme

[33inNC]

How are you supposed to develop a QB who does not posses the required physical talent to play the position.  Also, how can a QB improve if he sits on his ass and watches Netflix all offseason?

[Davidson Deac II]

5 hours ago, Mage said:

I'm not convinced that the NFL is any better or worse at developing QBs now than they were 20 years ago.  I mean I'm sure there are some developmental issues at play, just not sure it is any different than it has been.

The biggest difference IMO is that NFL teams are waaaaaaaay more willing to invest a 1st round pick into a QB now than they were 15-20 years ago.  A guy like Colin Kaepernick would probably be a top 5 pick in 2025, whereas he went in the 2nd in 2011.  Would a guy like Trey Lance go top 3 in 2010?  Hell no.  Look at Russell Wilson - he didn't go until the 3rd round.  The standard for being a 1st round QB has dropped.

So it may seem like we're seeing more high-profile busts at the position, but we're also seeing teams reach for QBs way more than they have in the past.  Someone with Anthony Richardson's college resume doesn't go in the top 3 20 years ago.  

Agreed.  

Fwiw, I think 30 years ago, Bryce young would be a 4th round pick if that.  But the changes in football allow him to put up video game numbers on a team like Alabama.  

[LinvilleGorge]

45 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Agreed.  

Fwiw, I think 30 years ago, Bryce young would be a 4th round pick if that.  But the changes in football allow him to put up video game numbers on a team like Alabama.  

I think the changes just led people to believe that a guy like Bruce could translate to the NFL now. Guys who lack NFL measurables have been putting up big numbers in college forever but in decades past NFL evaluators would look at them and say "great college player but it's almost certainly not gonna translate to the NFL" and they'd go on to be a mid to late round pick. But with the rule changes they see a guy like Bruce who they think checks all the boxes outside of elite physical talent and they convince themselves it can work now. Wrong. There are still very real physical prerequisites.

[Ghostofdelhomme]

Flutie would have been a 1st rounder if he didn’t go to the USFL. Bryce may end up similar to Goff- absolutely horrific on a bad team but good with a better fit

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

Flutie would have been a 1st rounder if he didn’t go to the USFL. Bryce may end up similar to Goff- absolutely horrific on a bad team but good with a better fit

Horrific? Goff threw for 3800 yards and 28 TDs in his second season. How's Bryce tracking?

[Ghostofdelhomme]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Horrific? Goff threw for 3800 yards and 28 TDs in his second season. How's Bryce tracking?

He played good when Todd Gurley was healthy. Just like Warner when Faulk was dominant. When they both started to deteriorate both qb’s sucked