Dan Morgan is an awful GM

[Shotgun]

On 11/1/2024 at 12:39 PM, Doc Holiday said:

Seriously, it’s his first year at GM, what has he done wrong? 

Johnson trade and the Burns trades needed to happen and we just didn’t have any leverage. We got $61m in dead cap that he inherited. 
 

So let’s hear it?

Going into the season with Young and Dalton...he brings in Plummer?

Who could possibly see that failing. lol

[thunderraiden]

Yeah, all of Morgan's draft picks have been horrible, thats why they are all contributing...

[CRA]

33 minutes ago, thunderraiden said:

Yeah, all of Morgan's draft picks have been horrible, thats why they are all contributing...

We have the worst roster in the NFL….dudes are on the field because we don’t have anyone.  They wouldn’t be contributing on a good roster right now

[thunderraiden]

11 minutes ago, CRA said:

We have the worst roster in the NFL….dudes are on the field because we don’t have anyone.  They wouldn’t be contributing on a good roster right now

Brother... the rookies from the last 10 years havent done poo on the same worst roster in the NFL.

[Mr. Scot]

On 11/1/2024 at 12:59 PM, Joe Bear said:

None of us are privy to the inner workings of this team

Which also means we don't know what his opinions were on any of those decisions.

I'm not high on what I've seen from Morgan so far, but it isn't fair to blame him for actions taken when he didn't have final say.

Mind you, the decisions we've seen him make since he did get final say haven't impressed me.

It's still way early, though.

Edited November 3 by Mr. Scot

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Which also means we don't know what his opinions were on any of those decisions.

I'm not high on what I've seen from Morgan so far, but it isn't fair to blame him for actions taken when he didn't have final say.

Mind you, the decisions we've seen him make since he did get final say haven't impressed me.

It's still way early, though.

Except we do know.  

[Mr. Scot]

On 11/1/2024 at 1:25 PM, SmokinwithWilly said:

1) Signed 2 high profile guards to big contracts. Did we need guards? Yes. But there's a reason you draft guards and pay tackles. It's easier to find solid guards in the draft. Now we have the most expensive line in the league and still can't get 100 yards passing before halftime. 

2) Traded up to get a RB when we didn't really need one. Chuba is one of the better RBs in the league right now and while it is a contract year, we had a crap ton of holes all over. Brooks was a luxury pick we didn't have the luxury to make.

3)Spending a small fortune to build a supporting cast for BY. Bryce didn't even put the work in himself during the offseason by his own admission. We didn't need to build an offense specifically for BY. We brought in DJ and drafted XL. These guys need a QB with a live arm. That's not BY. Speed kills but not when your QB can't legitimately make an accurate, deep ball strike without putting a ton of air under it and floating it. 

4. Not looking for a true center. There were several available and it's been a position of need for years. We could have had our choice but we rolled with Corbitt, who did look good at the spot, but had an injury bug that struck again this year. 

5) He didn't bring in any serious competition for Bryce. Now you can say that BY needs time to develop and we needed to show we had faith in him, blah blah blah. But the simple matter of fact is Bryce looked like a PS QB last year, Andy has one foot in the QB grave, and there was never an attempt to actually compete for the job. If he genuinely believed that BY was going to magically make it all come together watching YT and chillin for 4 months to unplug, then there's nothing else that needs to be said. 

The goal of every GM should be to build a winning team. Players are commodities and loyalty leads you to an early walk out the door. We've tried to build a system to work around the most limited QB in NFL history. 60 years of history should have told him it was never going to work. And benching BY after 2 games is the real truth, he never should have been starting anyway. And either Dan should have known that as the great MLB that he was after watching BY's game tape, or someone else is making the call and Dan is just rubberstamping that decision. 

Either way, doesn't matter. We're screwed because we've devoted 2 years of resources to build around a player that didn't put in the work in the off season after one of the worst NFL QB seasons ever. 

All of this analysis is valid.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Except we do know.  

No we don't.

Any notion that he opposed every bad decision is highly unlikely.

The idea that he simply rubber stamped everything isn't realistic either.

The tales in the above post, though? Those represent valid and accurate critique.

[mrcompletely11]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

No we don't.

Any notion that he opposed every bad decision is highly unlikely.

The idea that he simply rubber stamped everything isn't realistic either.

The tales in the above post, though? Those represent valid and accurate critique.

3 of the top blunders of this organization since he has been a part

1. bryce young trade and selection.  He said his damn self Bryce was his guy and it was reported he evaluated him over stroud.  Also do you really think Tepper would hire him if he was against the selection?

 

2. Brian burns.  Person reported from 3 sources he didnt want to trade Burns and the guy that did was fired

 

3, Trade up for DJ Johnson, morgan is on fuging tape saying he agreed with it.

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

3 of the top blunders of this organization since he has been a part

1. bryce young trade and selection.  He said his damn self Bryce was his guy and it was reported he evaluated him over stroud.  Also do you really think Tepper would hire him if he was against the selection?

2. Brian burns.  Person reported from 3 sources he didnt want to trade Burns and the guy that did was fired

3, Trade up for DJ Johnson, morgan is on fuging tape saying he agreed with it.

Frank Reich said Bryce was his guy too. Was he?

Every guy we draft is the guy we targeted; every free agent is the guy we really wanted, etc. etc.

[AU-panther]

On 11/3/2024 at 1:53 PM, Mr. Scot said:

No we don't.

Any notion that he opposed every bad decision is highly unlikely.

The idea that he simply rubber stamped everything isn't realistic either.

The tales in the above post, though? Those represent valid and accurate critique.

excellent point.

If anything I would like to believe Morgan differed a good bit from Fitt on a majority of choices being made and hence the reason Tepper decided to promote Morgan.

If Morgan and Fitt truly agreed on most, and then you still promote Morgan that doesn't look good.

 

 

 

 

[countryboi]

On 11/3/2024 at 2:47 PM, Mr. Scot said:

All of this analysis is valid.

Naw most of that analysis is weak, center hasn’t been an issue, no team is going to bring in true competition for their qb of the “future” and everyone wants BPA till you draft actually BPA. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

3 hours ago, countryboi said:

Naw most of that analysis is weak, center hasn’t been an issue, no team is going to bring in true competition for their qb of the “future” and everyone wants BPA till you draft actually BPA. 

Where have you been? Center has been an issue since Ryan Kalil's neck injury. We haven't had a solid center in almost a decade. The IOL has been god awful. KC has the best IOL in football and they are all players that many of us were screaming to draft because we recognize how weak our IOL was. 

BY showed nothing other than 1 half of competent football against one of the worst defenses in the NFL last year. He was the worst starting QB in football last year. 33rd with only 32 teams. Someone's backup was better than our draft prodigy. Yes, Bryce needed real competition because he was benched 2 games into this season because anyone with eyes could see he wasn't ready to be an NFL starter. If you want to compete for something other than the 1st pick, you need real QB competition. 

A 2-15 team can't afford to draft an injured RB that's not going to contribute immediately. With holes all over the place, RB was a luxury the team couldn't afford. We have no pass rush, but we got Jerry Jones' guy. High 5's all around. 

BPA is OK but if the BPA is a RB 4 rounds in a row it doesn't make sense to take 4 RBs. You have to build a team that can compete. We're in serious contention for back to back 1st picks and Morgan had a hand in building both those teams. 

Has he made some good draft picks. It appears so. But when it comes to team building, that's a whole different story.

[countryboi]

22 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Where have you been? Center has been an issue since Ryan Kalil's neck injury. We haven't had a solid center in almost a decade. The IOL has been god awful. KC has the best IOL in football and they are all players that many of us were screaming to draft because we recognize how weak our IOL was. 

BY showed nothing other than 1 half of competent football against one of the worst defenses in the NFL last year. He was the worst starting QB in football last year. 33rd with only 32 teams. Someone's backup was better than our draft prodigy. Yes, Bryce needed real competition because he was benched 2 games into this season because anyone with eyes could see he wasn't ready to be an NFL starter. If you want to compete for something other than the 1st pick, you need real QB competition. 

A 2-15 team can't afford to draft an injured RB that's not going to contribute immediately. With holes all over the place, RB was a luxury the team couldn't afford. We have no pass rush, but we got Jerry Jones' guy. High 5's all around. 

BPA is OK but if the BPA is a RB 4 rounds in a row it doesn't make sense to take 4 RBs. You have to build a team that can compete. We're in serious contention for back to back 1st picks and Morgan had a hand in building both those teams. 

Has he made some good draft picks. It appears so. But when it comes to team building, that's a whole different story.

We are talking today, and even after Corbett's injury, Bryce and Andy have been stepping in to clean pockets. Overall, they could use some depth at center, but it's the tiniest of issues on a team full of holes.

Even if you hate Bryce, it's impossible to determine his full potential after only 20 or so games. No team is going to bring in competition that early because they need him to work. This isn't specifically a Panthers issue; it's just how the league operates.

The only potential issue I could see here is in drafting Brooks. I'm willing to bet that he will prove to be the most talented running back in the draft.