WR Diontae Johnson to Ravens

[Basbear]

4 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Someone said we are paying his bonus so it rolls 4 million in cap to 2025. 
 

This is why you can’t react to trade parameters until the dust settles and all the details come out. Its never cut and dry trade x for y.

wrong 

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Wow. Panthers are basically eating $3.2 million to move up 10-15 spots in the fifth round. And it seems telling that nobody else in the league wanted to top that offer when Johnson's basically making the minimum the rest of the way

 

[Joe Bear]

This team won't win five games the rest of the decade. Not in a season, I mean they won't win five games in the next seven seasons combined.

No other sports team gives up its best players for free, drafts worse, or spends more cap room to be this bad. I'd argue no sports team has ever been the worst in the world at all three, other than this one.

Makes me glad I root for another team.

[Krovvy]

This also isn't helping Canales. 

Please God not another coach firing.

[ForJimmy]

24 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

New Ravens wide receiver Diontae Johnson is a very cheap acquisition in Baltimore.

The Panthers are paying most of Johnson’s remaining salary in the deal, and the Ravens will only have to pay Johnson about $625,000, according to Jeff Zrebiec of TheAthletic.com.

The trade was Johnson and the Panthers’ sixth-round pick for the Ravens’ fifth-round pick. So the Panthers are going to pay more than $3 million in cash and cap space and give Johnson away just to move up maybe 15 spots in the middle of Day 3 of the draft.

 

They might not be pay much but we gained $4 million.  

[Joe Bear]

Just now, Krovvy said:

This also isn't helping Canales. 

Please God not another coach firing.

I know it's coming. You know it's coming. Ten coaches, 10 years. We all know it's happening.

[Fade2BlackNBlue]

Danny what a poo trade.

[strato]

2 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

This is clearly a "Bryce is done in Carolina" move if I've ever seen one.

Trading Diontae for a fourth or more (what he's worth at the least) would be acquiring assets as we're in a hard place. However, trading him for absolutely nothing of value while you have half a season left with a floundering rookie quarterback? Yeah, they're done with Bryce.

If Diontae is healthy, and plays up to his potential, he's a number one receiver.

If that turns out to be accurate, and related, it is worth it. Him looming on the sidelines as an option is the biggest hinderance to making progress and will be until it is addressed. 

[Panthercougar68]

4 minutes ago, Basbear said:

wrong 

 

No one has officially said what the 3.2 is because right now it’s all overreaction. The financial stuff isn’t seen until the trade hits the wire officially. 

Edited October 29 by Panthercougar68

[Joe Bear]

2 minutes ago, strato said:

If that turns out to be accurate, and related, it is worth it. Him looming on the sidelines as an option is the biggest hinderance to making progress and will be until it is addressed. 

This makes me think Morgan's signing him to a big extension. It makes sense -- think about it; whatever the rest of the world would consider retarded, the Panthers do.

Personally, let's deal No. 1 overall to the Jets for a third and a sixth in 2028.

[Basbear]

4 minutes ago, frankw said:

We sucked at drafting with Rhule Fitterer and so far Morgan too. One common thread remains. Tepper is involved and hands on in the process. Why else keep the scouts through all this league worst suck?

I got no clue how any of these scouts are able to keep jobs. It's one of those jobs were your work is remembered by all and all those reports are kept for future moves. It's trash. Dont you remember them either trading or signing for the first few picks form the jags draft class- cj Henderson, K'Lavon Chaisson, and Laviska Shenault. It's not like they can focus on their trash ass picks, but go after another teams who can not draft either.....

our scouts are team killers

[Basbear]

5 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

No one has officially said what the 3.2 is because right now it’s all overreaction. The financial stuff isn’t seen until the trade hits the wire officially. 

https://x.com/billbarnwell/status/1851329786078961737

[strato]

You guys really think the scouts are making the decisions? 

I don't. I think you are worrying about the wrong poo there. It is much more the coaching turnover and the constant tweaking of what they want from one year to the next.

The guy from last year's draft and staff not being the favorite of the new staff. The changing of coordinators nearly annually. A different OL coach. That sort of thing if you ask me. Which you didn't. 

And we had that going on with GM from Rhule then to Fitterer, too. 

Edited October 29 by strato

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I got no clue how any of these scouts are able to keep jobs. It's one of those jobs were your work is remembered by all and all those reports are kept for future moves. It's trash. Dont you remember them either trading or signing for the first few picks form the jags draft class- cj Henderson, K'Lavon Chaisson, and Laviska Shenault. It's not like they can focus on their trash ass picks, but go after another teams who can not draft either.....

our scouts are team killers

The process is led heavily by analytics which was introduced when Tepper bought the team. Which is when we went from mediocre to decent drafts to absolute dogshit.

As for the scouts. My feeling on it is if they are still here making money they must be just telling Tepper what he wants to hear. Which is certainly a necessary prerequisite to working for the Carolina Panthers. Those who don't fall in line peace out. Hence the high turnover.

[Doc Holiday]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Maybe not, but I also think he's worth more than what we got.

I agree, but I also think we didn’t have any leverage at all. And that’s what bit us in the ass.

leverage matters.