Canales equals disappointing

[Wolfcop]

He gets a bye this year. Next year there needs to be significant improvement and hope with a new QB and an improved defense. 

[strato]

2 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

He gets a bye this year. Next year there needs to be significant improvement and hope with a new QB and an improved defense. 

I think it’s totally fair to expect him to improve. I am in for three years before really putting the hammer down on things. So, be looking right going into 2026. And be right. 

[Carolina Cajun]

he's fine.  I havent seen anything eye opening or life changing about his coaching style, also havent seen anything abysmal (From a young coach perspective).  He needs to use his O-line and running game more, I think he gets in his "we gotta pass to open the run" mindset at times and just completely ignores just running the ball, and that sucks, but in fairness those are the kind of things I expect from a young head coach and OC (reminder, he only had 1 season calling the shots prior to this).  I also rather have been ok with the moves Morgan has made this past offseason, but there is and was just SO much that is wrong with the organization that theres no possible chance a single offseason can fix it.  We'll know more about both of their growth in the league by around this time next season.

[bigdog_10_2002]

23 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

He gets a bye this year. Next year there needs to be significant improvement and hope with a new QB and an improved defense. 

I don’t think you’ll see significant improvement next year. The lack of anything resembling adequate depth on this team makes it almost impossible for them to get competitive quick. One or two injuries in key places and it’s an immediate free fall to worst team in the league status again next year. 

If by significant improvement you mean win 4 or 5 games and not get beat by 21+ each game; I think that’s doable. Will completely depend on staying healthy though. 

Edited October 28 by bigdog_10_2002

[CPantherKing]

Bryce, Evero, Ekwonu, Horn are all next up before Canales. If Canalea goes, then Dan Morgan goes with him.

Need to stop piecing a team together and hope a championship culture appears.

Let Canales choose his QBs to run his system and let Morgan reset the entire defense with both Canales and Morgan choosing their DC. They get 2 years to show progress from that point.

[ProcessBlue2]

I'm not against him until he gets another offseason with Morgan.

Had to start his tenure "fixing Young", defense is historically bad.

I need to see him with an QB (vet or rookie) that he actually wants, and whatever he and Morgan do to this defense this year.

[strato]

Let him create and handle a situation that we can blame him for at least, you can't blame him for this one. I don't think. 

I'd like to see Icky's sorry behind the sticks ass bitched about for a little while before we go straight to Canales. Who had one year of OC and that is it. I say let the locker room decide next year.

 

[MHS831]

There are several rookies who were drafted 6 months ago who are playing better and improving--Nix, for one.  I am sorry--he sucks and has lost the respect of his team (body language).   DId you see Horn cursing out Sean Payton?  Probably knew him back when his dad played for him--but that is the frustration the whole team carries when they are busting their asses while a guy making $10m per year learns how to play.  The sub par play hurts these players' abilities to sign bigger second contracts.  It matters.

Edited October 28 by MHS831

[bythenbrs]

For those quick to pull the trigger, if Canales gets yanked after just one season, no quality NFL caliber head coach candidate will answer the phone if Tepper calls. This team will become radioactive and untouchable.

[BrisbanePanther]

58 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

There are several rookies who were drafted 6 months ago who are playing better and improving--Nix, for one.  I am sorry--he sucks and has lost the respect of his team (body language).   DId you see Horn cursing out Sean Payton?  Probably knew him back when his dad played for him--but that is the frustration the whole team carries when they are busting their asses while a guy making $10m per year learns how to play.  The sub par play hurts these players' abilities to sign bigger second contracts.  It matters.

Have to agree. Reading this thread is a little like the twilight zone. Many were coalescing around a Bryce verdict 8-games into last season and were sure that he was already a bust because he didn't have the obvious tools or traits.

At this point I'm not sure why Canales doesn't get the same type of criticism. He's clearly no McVay (which is still why owners takes chances on guys like him) and his product is more like Nathaniel Hackett's, who was also coaching a team with bad QB production and overall bad team play. He may just not be NFL HC material.

So far, he's just a younger, cooler, maybe nicer version that Rhule was at this stage of his first season IMO. Hopefully he improves, but this team's record will be worse than last year's. Can't excuse him from that.

[MHS831]

47 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

For those quick to pull the trigger, if Canales gets yanked after just one season, no quality NFL caliber head coach candidate will answer the phone if Tepper calls. This team will become radioactive and untouchable.

I think Canales will be fine if they stay with him--injuries + lack of talent does not scream for an new coach.   Tepper needs to identify the central problem and stop blaming the symptoms of that problem.

[Shocker]

51 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

For those quick to pull the trigger, if Canales gets yanked after just one season, no quality NFL caliber head coach candidate will answer the phone if Tepper calls. This team will become radioactive and untouchable.

This…although we are very close to being that anyway

[PootieNunu]

I think the biggest turn off last season was Tepper forcing Bryce on people after him putting 16 games of "my god this guy fuging sucks" on tape. 

 

[electro's horse]

2 hours ago, Wolfcop said:

He gets a bye this year. Next year there needs to be significant improvement and hope with a new QB and an improved defense. 

the moves that gutted the defense were made after he was hired.

did he have no say?