Positive signs from Bryce

[BIGH2001]

2 hours ago, frankw said:

Sucks to be chasing that hot take and forget which side you started on. He must be auditioning for a job with ESPN.

[CPF4LIFE]

41 minutes ago, Hogan said:

I admit, I have not watched every minute of every game beginning in September 2023. That said, in what I have seen, I have yet to see a wow play, where I said this guy has potential. Not one. 

Fans are glossing over the sideline catch to Coker and the td to Coker. But we have been waiting him to make throws like that since last year? Hell, he couldn't even make that throw in practice.

[electro's horse]

1 hour ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Fans are glossing over the sideline catch to Coker and the td to Coker. But we have been waiting him to make throws like that since last year? Hell, he couldn't even make that throw in practice.

He also threw a hideous corner end zone fade that got picked when Coker had him beat. 

And for every time he connects on that sideline go, he throws five uncatchable balls on the same route. 

Edited October 29 by electro's horse

[Jay Roosevelt]

Bryce did play better than the first two weeks for sure, and against a better defense. He should start the rest of the season.

There's no reason not to start Bryce at this point. Best case he gets it together and becomes a good QB.

If not, we likely end up with the #1 pick.

Either is a win in the long run, even when we're getting our ass kicked and losing on the field.

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Bryce did play better than the first two weeks for sure, and against a better defense. He should start the rest of the season.

There's no reason not to start Bryce at this point. Best case he gets it together and becomes a good QB.

If not, we likely end up with the #1 pick.

Either is a win in the long run, even when we're getting our ass kicked and losing on the field.

I largely agree.  No real reason not to start especially given what Dalton turned into of late.  

I'm not going to watch it but I think that's the best move.   I think it closes the door and we get a legit cleaned house in the QB room next year. 

[strato]

18 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Bryce did play better than the first two weeks for sure, and against a better defense. He should start the rest of the season.

There's no reason not to start Bryce at this point. Best case he gets it together and becomes a good QB.

If not, we likely end up with the #1 pick.

Either is a win in the long run, even when we're getting our ass kicked and losing on the field.

Him playing good is a relative thing. Why are people thinking because he was better than the bottom of the barrel job performance we have seen the first two weeks, that that means he s good?

Who is he better than? He will struggle to crack a top 25 QBs list even  if you started him another 19 starts. .

That's good enough? Why? Because we spent so much? 

 

I don't mean to attack You. It is that everyone seems to be changing their tune all of a sudden and your post is a great example. 

Edited October 29 by strato

[SCO96]

14 hours ago, NAS said:

Just because Tepper was an idiot to trade the farm for Bryce it doesn't mean I will blindly hate on the kid and not acknowledge positives when I see them.  Is he anywhere near where he needs to be?  Not at all.  He is inconsistent in seeing the field and making accurate throws, still lacks confidence as evidenced by the missed passes and interceptions, running out of bounds, running into a sack etc. .  A confident QB delivers those throws and makes better decisions.  

I guess when I look back on Darnold, he looked like a lost cause and now he's playing well.  Who's to say Bryce can't do the same whether here or somewhere else.  All I'm saying is play him to the end of the year and then draft another QB or sign a vet.   You can still retain him on the roster potentially to compete, or hopefully trade him for a team that saw enough on tape to take a chance.  

I had to hop off the boards yesterday so I'm just seeing your post. While I think BY will "NEVER" live up to his draft status, I think your post has made me look a things from a different perspective.

I thought he looked better at certain times on Sunday as you pointed out. Still, had the Panthers traded him the day after the game  I wouldn't have felt any remorse at all. It doesn't mean I hate the guy. I just want to see the team be competitive and I think BY behind center is a hindrance to that.

Now, a small part (very small) of me wonders if we should give him a couple of more starts. I also wonder if there are a couple of things Canales could do to make things easier for him. Pundits said Young was effective moving around in Alabama.

I think if we tried to move the pocket several times a game it could help him get some easier completions.

I don't think we've tried a flea flicker this season. 

Why not run a "Philly special" with Bryce in the red zone? Or even in the middle of the field to gain a big chuck of yards. Anything to give the guy a bit of confidence.

Other teams seem to have a least one or two plays a game where the route combinations seem to leave a guy running wide open. We never seem to have that and I can't help but wonder if that's a scheme issue. 

I think BY needs to work harder too. It doesn't look like he's ever had good chemistry with any receiver outside of AT. If I were in his position I'd be throwing to Legette, Coker, and Sanders hours before and hours after practice. I think that 2nd INT would have been a TD had he and Legette practiced that more. The first INT seemed to be a miscommunication that ruined a promising drive. My biggest gripe with Bryce getting more reps is that this hinders the ability of our young skill players to develop. He even hurt the production AT and DJ during those first two games.

I'd still be looking for his replacement in 2025 or at least bringing in someone who was a legit threat to take his job while I used the draft to improve the team as a whole. Still, it really would be in all of our best interest (Teppers, BY's, Canales, the fans, etc) if BY could flip the switch and show us something. It would probably be the only time everyone on this board would gladly eat a large plate of crow 

Edited October 29 by SCO96

[Proudiddy]

Picture a world where a guy who couldn't hold Chase Daniel's jock as an NFL QB swindled a dumbass franchise into drafting them number 1 overall.  Welp, you don't have to bc we did it!

He might trick one more team, but after that, he's going to wash out fast.

[NAS]

10 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Picture a world where a guy who couldn't hold Chase Daniel's jock as an NFL QB swindled a dumbass franchise into drafting them number 1 overall.  Welp, you don't have to bc we did it!

He might trick one more team, but after that, he's going to wash out fast.

Diddy tho?

[TN05]

59 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Bryce did play better than the first two weeks for sure, and against a better defense. He should start the rest of the season.

There's no reason not to start Bryce at this point. Best case he gets it together and becomes a good QB.

If not, we likely end up with the #1 pick.

Either is a win in the long run, even when we're getting our ass kicked and losing on the field.

he did not play better. He looked okay on the scripted opening drive, then we had nine more drives without a score, and then a 98 yard drive in literal garbage time closing minutes.

[SCO96]

6 minutes ago, TN05 said:

he did not play better. He looked okay on the scripted opening drive, then we had nine more drives without a score, and then a 98 yard drive in literal garbage time closing minutes.

It's hard to be critical of what you just said. Bryce needs to show up in quarters 2 and 3 before the game is out of reach. Had Bryce finished with those same stats and kept our deficit at one score for most of the game I'd think we had something to build one. We couldn't even get close enough to attempt a FG until the game was almost over.

[JawnyBlaze]

34 minutes ago, TN05 said:

he did not play better. He looked okay on the scripted opening drive, then we had nine more drives without a score, and then a 98 yard drive in literal garbage time closing minutes.

It seems to me that people that say he played better or have anything positive to say just look at the stats and didn’t actually watch him play. The short opening drive was decent (even though the td pass was behind XL and should have been picked or knocked down but XL did a great job securing it). From that point on until garbage time against prevent defense he was atrocious. One maybe two decent plays the whole time. Half his positive stats came in garbage time. That’s not better. There’s nothing positive to draw from that. 

[bythenbrs]

When some think that it’s really bad but it can’t get worse, only better from here… and me knowing, yes it can…

Edited October 29 by bythenbrs

[ProcessBlue2]

1st drive that was scripted= Good

Other 9 drives= Very Bad

Last drive in garage time against prevent D=Good

Yeah, that's what some people are using to cope.