Positive signs from Bryce

[NAS]

32 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

It seems to me that people that say he played better or have anything positive to say just look at the stats and didn’t actually watch him play. The short opening drive was decent (even though the td pass was behind XL and should have been picked or knocked down but XL did a great job securing it). From that point on until garbage time against prevent defense he was atrocious. One maybe two decent plays the whole time. Half his positive stats came in garbage time. That’s not better. There’s nothing positive to draw from that. 

I watched the entire game and he also played against a top defense which no QB has done well against this year. Conversely, Bo Nix looked like he was playing against a college defense 

[MHS831]

Here is what I think I saw:  He still bails too soon.  When he completes a pass downfield, you can almost see 300 lbs of pressure fly off his back--until the next bad play.  Slants are usually based on pre-snap reads and the rest is timing.  His screens were predetermined and frequent.  Reading the defense?  That is when I see him scrambling in a good pocket.  He has good plays as often as good QBs have bad plays. 

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Here is what I think I saw:  He still bails too soon.  When he completes a pass downfield, you can almost see 300 lbs of pressure fly off his back--until the next bad play.  Slants are usually based on pre-snap reads and the rest is timing.  His screens were predetermined and frequent.  Reading the defense?  That is when I see him scrambling in a good pocket.  He has good plays as often as good QBs have bad plays. 

Yeah and he still misses reads. 

He's broken. Sad after just one season but it is what it is. 

He would be best suited by a continued backup role and substantially less pressure on him. Hence why trading him would be good. Especially to a team with an established QB with zero starting QB controversy. Just reset and get your head right.

[Paa Langfart]

21 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Just reset and get your head right.

The time to do it was early last season and was probably what Reich tried to tell brains McTepper.  When brains said no Reich checked out.

[Jmac]

A few good throws in garbage time means nothing. You have to take the entire body of work to evaluate the results. The total body of work sucks.

Sorry, but I'm not buying it. 

[Navy_football]

Well I don't think he played well, but he absolutely played better than the first 2 games. If he had played like this in his first 2 games this season, he probably wouldn't have been benched. Just more decisive and not afraid to throw the ball. The INTs weren't egregious to me. Miscommunication on one. The other is just lack of chemistry and a GREAT play by the DB. Made some decent throws and at least took a few shots downfield. Ramp up those downfield shots to 5+ a game and I'll feel better about his confidence. 

[TD alt]

Too short, don't want.

[Jon Snow]

I'm not sure what everyone is up in arms about. Young had 2 decent drives last game so there's nothing wrong for giving him credit for that. Lord knows there's never been much to praise him for.

[Navy_football]

55 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Here is what I think I saw:  He still bails too soon.  When he completes a pass downfield, you can almost see 300 lbs of pressure fly off his back--until the next bad play.  Slants are usually based on pre-snap reads and the rest is timing.  His screens were predetermined and frequent.  Reading the defense?  That is when I see him scrambling in a good pocket.  He has good plays as often as good QBs have bad plays. 

I agree with all. And would add that these are primarily rookie mistakes and approaches. He's only a second year guy (3 games in) so not that far removed. Denver has a very good defense. It was a good showing against a tough D. This team is just not good. Bo Nix is no where as good as he looked against Carolina. He had as much time as he wanted to go through his progressions. 

[Jackie Lee]

 

[strato]

42 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I'm not sure what everyone is up in arms about. Young had 2 decent drives last game so there's nothing wrong for giving him credit for that. Lord knows there's never been much to praise him for.

We see the insidious doings that lead to 2025 Bryce Young on the  Panthers roster and reliving the nightmare yet another year, making it three years wasted on huge mistake. 

It is sort of like watching a toddler reaching its hand into a flame, after not learning the first time that it will burn you. You know what is about to happen. But it has to find out for itself. Problem is, I get burned too in this case.  Not just the toddler. 

Edited October 29 by strato