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Just now, Gapanthersfan said:

Hey Dave, your team can’t do a damn thing good. well yeah, efficiency good but we need to work on blah blah blah. 

Kidding me, bro? He’s way too ok with seeing his team get their teeth kicked in. 

I mean, I think you are seeing the overall organizational realization over the past 3-4 weeks that we are just plain a terrible, talent less team.

Hence why I think you aren't hearing any real frustration from anyone. Not Tepper, not Morgan and not Canales. I think everyone has accepted this poo is over for 2024.

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Just now, CPantherKing said:

Canales tied to Bryce and Evero by Tepper. He has to kiss the Teppers' brass ones and hope Evero and Bryce leave the building first

This doesn't even make sense.  Bryce was benched.  The organization has already given up on him.  

Not that I have a dog in this fight.  I think everyone sucks.  Which is why this team is on track to make HISTORY (not the good kind).

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Just now, MGH1989 said:

I conceded Bryce isn’t the guy weeks ago and I never declared he was the guy. I just thought you needed time to make the declaration.

Dude its an opinion. Calm down. If you think  he is an elite prospect have at it. I don’t.

I'm not using the word elite for any college QB that hasn't played in the NFL yet that's just me.

I'm not eliminating any QB prospects this early. I like Ward's potential. That's it.

If we somehow get the first pick we have to heavily consider QB. Now if we get a legit haul level offer from a team looking to trade up then I would accept that. I'm fine drafting a QB later if need be depending on how the draft falls. But we absolutely need to add one in the first 3 rounds. This QB room has to be purged in the offseason.

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3 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Yea but like why are we waiting until the final drive of the half down 2 Tds to start trying to make these kind of throws. Bryce just simply doesn't have it at this level and I think DC knows this

Might be right, but I do think that was a blown coverage by the Broncos defense.  We haven't had many opportunities like that. 

Fwiw, I don't think Canales is telling Bryce not to throw it long, I think he is deciding to throw it short much of the time.  

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