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1 minute ago, frankw said:

You're declaring Cam Ward to be not a franchise QB in October before the draft yet you've spent months carrying water for Bryce Young.

Pretty weak bro.

I conceded Bryce isn’t the guy weeks ago and I never declared he was the guy. I just thought you needed time to make the declaration.

Dude its an opinion. Calm down. If you think  he is an elite prospect have at it. I don’t.

 

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1 minute ago, ncsfinest21 said:

All the good QBs came out last years draft. There won't be another good class til 2026

I want to go Travis Hunter. If he’s the best CB, he would pair well with Horn.

Best case scenario is we trade back a few picks and still get a stud CB/DT and another 2026 1st.

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Just now, frankw said:

I'd much rather take a shot on the guy that can make all the throws than this factory of sadness that is Bryce Young at QB.

I mean, if you just want "can make all the throws" they will be available in the 3rd round and lower too. poo, Will Grier could make all the throws. He just rarely did it.

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1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I will say that Bryce made a nice throw to Leggette that XL dropped.  Guess it was in the sun or something.  

Yea but like why are we waiting until the final drive of the half down 2 Tds to start trying to make these kind of throws. Bryce just simply doesn't have it at this level and I think DC knows this

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    • 1) Signed 2 high profile guards to big contracts. Did we need guards? Yes. But there's a reason you draft guards and pay tackles. It's easier to find solid guards in the draft. Now we have the most expensive line in the league and still can't get 100 yards passing before halftime.  2) Traded up to get a RB when we didn't really need one. Chuba is one of the better RBs in the league right now and while it is a contract year, we had a crap ton of holes all over. Brooks was a luxury pick we didn't have the luxury to make. 3)Spending a small fortune to build a supporting cast for BY. Bryce didn't even put the work in himself during the offseason by his own admission. We didn't need to build an offense specifically for BY. We brought in DJ and drafted XL. These guys need a QB with a live arm. That's not BY. Speed kills but not when your QB can't legitimately make an accurate, deep ball strike without putting a ton of air under it and floating it.  4. Not looking for a true center. There were several available and it's been a position of need for years. We could have had our choice but we rolled with Corbitt, who did look good at the spot, but had an injury bug that struck again this year.  5) He didn't bring in any serious competition for Bryce. Now you can say that BY needs time to develop and we needed to show we had faith in him, blah blah blah. But the simple matter of fact is Bryce looked like a PS QB last year, Andy has one foot in the QB grave, and there was never an attempt to actually compete for the job. If he genuinely believed that BY was going to magically make it all come together watching YT and chillin for 4 months to unplug, then there's nothing else that needs to be said.  The goal of every GM should be to build a winning team. Players are commodities and loyalty leads you to an early walk out the door. We've tried to build a system to work around the most limited QB in NFL history. 60 years of history should have told him it was never going to work. And benching BY after 2 games is the real truth, he never should have been starting anyway. And either Dan should have known that as the great MLB that he was after watching BY's game tape, or someone else is making the call and Dan is just rubberstamping that decision.  Either way, doesn't matter. We're screwed because we've devoted 2 years of resources to build around a player that didn't put in the work in the off season after one of the worst NFL QB seasons ever. 
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