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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We have next to no actual NFL caliber talent. poo, most of it is in the OL room.

Fill out a legit NFL roster over the next few offseasons. That's the way to turn this around.

Nah, we will draft another promising QB in April with a top 5 pick and ruin the poor guy's career.  Tepper can't help himself.

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2 minutes ago, MGH1989 said:

Of course they need to evaluate it and they obviously will. I don’t make the decisions, I just have an opinion and I’m not sold on any of these QBs. Maybe that changes as we get further in the process. All I’m saying is if you don’t have conviction in a QB this team needs to go defense. If they don’t have conviction they can’t be drafting a QB just to do it.

Fair enough. I agree.

As far as having conviction ehhh I'm not sold on our evaluators and decision makers at all. Morgan still has a ton to prove IMO.

We just need to draft good football players regardless of position and stop the RAS score obsession.

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

Oh we did. He was supposed to be our new starting QB. He was a level of shell shocked that made David Carr look calm and composed. It was wild.

I’ll take your word for it, I remember Collins having buzz, Buerlein had buzz and then a whole lotta jags until Jake popped up.

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We have next to no actual NFL caliber talent. poo, most of it is in the OL room.

Fill out a legit NFL roster over the next few offseasons. That's the way to turn this around.

Hubbard is certainly ok, and Brooks might be.  We actually aren't bad (when healthy) at WR, but I guess Thielen and Johnson might be gone.  XL could be good, and Coker I think is ok.  We desperately need a tight end and better qb play though.

Defensively, I agree.  We need major talent upgrades.  

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

Fair enough. I agree.

As far as having conviction ehhh I'm not sold on our evaluators and decision makers at all. Morgan still has a ton to prove IMO.

We just need to draft good football players regardless of position and stop the RAS score obsession.

Morgan deserves the benefit of the doubt for now. He has made some good decisions with the guards and thus far it looks like we have some draft hits as well.

Skepticism with this team is fair though. At this point we need proof of concept before handing out any flowers to anyone.

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