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7 minutes ago, MGH1989 said:

If there was a generational QB. Do it. Cam Ward isn’t. The only way you truly get elite players is through the draft, especially for a team this bad. Another year swinging at QB is another year you miss out at elite talent at the top of the draft.

I like Cam, but I don't know if he will be a great NFL qb.

That being said, we don't actually know who is and who is not a great qb until they get in the NFL.  

Trevor Lawrence was considered a great qb when drafted, but he is maybe slightly above average.  Patrick Mahomes was not called a generational qb when he was drafted, but he is.  

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Just now, MGH1989 said:

No idea what you’re even talking about bro.

You're declaring Cam Ward to be not a franchise QB in October before the draft yet you've spent months carrying water for Bryce Young.

Pretty weak bro.

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