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Just now, CPF4LIFE said:

Honestly... what can you do? This is how you "help" him. If you try to be bold.... you are just "putting him in a bad situation". There is no right way to handle it. Damned if you do damned if you don't. 

Pretty much. He doesn't have NFL level talent and we're basically running an offense to try to compensate for it.

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1 minute ago, TN05 said:

He's Bryce Young, what did you expect?

Notice a commonality here? Reich and Canales both called almost nothing but short passes for Bryce that gives you almost no shot to get first downs unless your WRs/RBs are breaking several tackles every time they get the ball. 

What's more baffling is this is happening when we know our Oline is solid in pass pro this year.

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1 minute ago, BIGH2001 said:

What a bunch of useless calls. If he’s not going to throw downfield just let Plummer play. 

Exactly. Our season is over. Take some chances and see what you've got. Use this opportunity to develop some semblance of a deep passing game to carry into next season.

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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Put Plummer in. fug it.   Can't be worse 

I love it here. The difference between this place and social media is wild. Twitter was all horned up bc that TD from Bryce, saying he’s back and he’s awesome etc, while everyone on here knew it was fools gold. I agree get Bryce out of here. 

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    • 1) Signed 2 high profile guards to big contracts. Did we need guards? Yes. But there's a reason you draft guards and pay tackles. It's easier to find solid guards in the draft. Now we have the most expensive line in the league and still can't get 100 yards passing before halftime.  2) Traded up to get a RB when we didn't really need one. Chuba is one of the better RBs in the league right now and while it is a contract year, we had a crap ton of holes all over. Brooks was a luxury pick we didn't have the luxury to make. 3)Spending a small fortune to build a supporting cast for BY. Bryce didn't even put the work in himself during the offseason by his own admission. We didn't need to build an offense specifically for BY. We brought in DJ and drafted XL. These guys need a QB with a live arm. That's not BY. Speed kills but not when your QB can't legitimately make an accurate, deep ball strike without putting a ton of air under it and floating it.  4. Not looking for a true center. There were several available and it's been a position of need for years. We could have had our choice but we rolled with Corbitt, who did look good at the spot, but had an injury bug that struck again this year.  5) He didn't bring in any serious competition for Bryce. Now you can say that BY needs time to develop and we needed to show we had faith in him, blah blah blah. But the simple matter of fact is Bryce looked like a PS QB last year, Andy has one foot in the QB grave, and there was never an attempt to actually compete for the job. If he genuinely believed that BY was going to magically make it all come together watching YT and chillin for 4 months to unplug, then there's nothing else that needs to be said.  The goal of every GM should be to build a winning team. Players are commodities and loyalty leads you to an early walk out the door. We've tried to build a system to work around the most limited QB in NFL history. 60 years of history should have told him it was never going to work. And benching BY after 2 games is the real truth, he never should have been starting anyway. And either Dan should have known that as the great MLB that he was after watching BY's game tape, or someone else is making the call and Dan is just rubberstamping that decision.  Either way, doesn't matter. We're screwed because we've devoted 2 years of resources to build around a player that didn't put in the work in the off season after one of the worst NFL QB seasons ever. 
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