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Dan Graziano: Panthers will trade Diontae Johnson

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1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Adam thielen 

Xavier lagette

jalen Coker 

Ian thomas 

We’re not trading XL or Coker. These young players are our future and should be developed. Thielen and Johnson are definitely on the table. Thomas has not trade value. 

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

I honestly think this was obvious after Sunday. It's just basically official now 

Wouldn't be surprised if we were just waiting it out for yet another WR to get hurt somewhere else in the NFL so the asking price gets bumped up as high as possible.

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30 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I think Morgan is qualified. Hell he was probably more qualified than Fitt.

Problem is he was here to help build the steamer last year so he was tainted.

This is a hall pass year with Morgan and Canales, for me at least. Morgan did everything he could to help Bryce succeed this season to the detriment of the defense, but we all knew that going into the season. This was going to be the rebuild year we should have had back in 2020. Because Bryce poo the bed so hard we need to sell whatever assets we have left and stockpile as much draft capital as possible. Look for improvement next season, this year is a lost cause so there's no sense getting upset.

I think saying he's qualified is being generous just my opinion.

He was here as Fitterer's righthand man through far too many bad decisions.

And let's be real. He knew as much as we did Bryce Young had a very slim chance of becoming a franchise QB this season. He and Canales decided to continue coddling Bryce and didn't give him any legit competition in camp and once again set their fanbase up for an utterly embarrassing season. To have sold out the defense the way they did just to make absolutely no attempt at adding another young QB to this roster not named Plummer is egregious.

Also all that money Dan tied up in the OL and we couldn't move the ball whatsoever on a 4th and 1.

Morgan absolutely does not get a pass at least in my POV. He needs to start showing some high quality returns and soon.

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34 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Wouldn't be surprised if we were just waiting it out for yet another WR to get hurt somewhere else in the NFL so the asking price gets bumped up as high as possible.

I don't think this is us making a shrewd move. I think it's us figuring out that this poo is over. He doesn't want to be here. At all.

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Asked if the decision had anything to do with keeping Johnson healthy for trade value, coach Dave Canales deferred to general manager Dan Morgan and Brandt Tilis, the executive vice president of football operations.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41999830/panthers-wrs-diontae-johnson-adam-thielen-ruled-vs-broncos

Panthers and Diontae don't want to take a chance of an injury Sunday prior to him being traded 

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5 hours ago, LelouchBritannia said:

People need to stop obsessing about draft picks. If you have a good player sign them and cut all the poo ones.

Thats how you build a good football team and not be stuck in rebuilding for 7 years…

I think that's incorrect for the most part.  You build your foundation through the draft and then fill in the rest around them once you have a solid enough foundation. 

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1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I think Morgan is qualified. Hell he was probably more qualified than Fitt.

Problem is he was here to help build the steamer last year so he was tainted.

This is a hall pass year with Morgan and Canales, for me at least. Morgan did everything he could to help Bryce succeed this season to the detriment of the defense, but we all knew that going into the season. This was going to be the rebuild year we should have had back in 2020. Because Bryce poo the bed so hard we need to sell whatever assets we have left and stockpile as much draft capital as possible. Look for improvement next season, this year is a lost cause so there's no sense getting upset.

Morgan ruined any grace i was giving at the draft.  This draft felt exactly like a Fitterer draft and I was no longer willing to give him a pass for all the awful moves while he was Fitts right hand man.  He may be qualified for the job but that doesn't mean he's good at it.  His eye for talent doesn't seem very good and he's drafting specialized players that mostly fit in old schemes that don't work anymore.  I'm more done on Morgan than anyone.  Canales I think should get more time.  Even though the train wreck that we call our "defense" would be awful no matter who the coach was, I'm also done with Evero.  It's not his fault they're terrible, I just hate his soft scheme and play calling.

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2 hours ago, Wolfcop said:

We can't keep talent on this team. 

Talent attracts talent. Where is our talent? OL and maybe two guys on defense and one is gone for the year? Add in that nobody wants to play for Tepper or with Bryce and that's two big things. 

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16 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

Morgan ruined any grace i was giving at the draft.  This draft felt exactly like a Fitterer draft and I was no longer willing to give him a pass for all the awful moves while he was Fitts right hand man.  He may be qualified for the job but that doesn't mean he's good at it.  His eye for talent doesn't seem very good and he's drafting specialized players that mostly fit in old schemes that don't work anymore.  I'm more done on Morgan than anyone.  Canales I think should get more time.  Even though the train wreck that we call our "defense" would be awful no matter who the coach was, I'm also done with Evero.  It's not his fault they're terrible, I just hate his soft scheme and play calling.

Too early to call it a fitterer draft, we have no idea if everyone sucks or not. right now 3 of our picks are contributing significantly already in their rookie years with the potential for a 4th in brooks. Also, he got us a 2nd round pick back for the 2025 draft, so that's another positive.

That's already better than a fitterer draft, but again, too early to tell if everyone sucks or not.

If all 4 of the players end up at least mid, that's a better draft than Fitt ever had.

 

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