Dan Graziano: Panthers will trade Diontae Johnson

[strato]

7 minutes ago, frankw said:

I have to say it doesn't exactly inspire much confidence in Morgan that he's been desperate to ink this guy to an extension while he throws the rest of his team under the bus and mails it in. Haven't we seen this story before? Sounds a lot like Scott Fitterer to me.

Do we know the chronology of it? 

I'm still trying to figure out 'the offense was changed three times' (or the playbook, whatever was said). Original concept? Again when Bryce revealed his skill set? Reverting to number 1 for Dalton in Seattle? That's technically 3. 

Reporters..... nowadays it's just men gossiping. Now women get to do it too, and that's their forte. It isn't going anywhere and it is left to us to decipher. 

[SOJA]

2 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Cruising into year six of the 1 year rebuild 

fuging lol 

[SOJA]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Sheena quick said we have been trying to sign him and no movement.  She said this on spaces on monday

I mean I understand that from his agent's standpoint. WRs are getting PAID right now. Why wouldn't they want him to hit the open market this offseason 

[Aussie Tank]

1 hour ago, GoobyPls said:

The chances of us drafting a player as good as Johnson with the return pick is slim to none. We suck at drafting WR

Higher chance of doing that than him resigning here 

[strato]

6 minutes ago, SOJA said:

I mean I understand that from his agent's standpoint. WRs are getting PAID right now. Why wouldn't they want him to hit the open market this offseason 

Yeah true.

If we extended him he'd probably blow out his achilles anyway. And he knows it lol. 

[ForJimmy]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I didn't. That's hilarious. LOL 

He also is stopping/giving up on routes. Not good for a culture change….

[mc52beast]

3 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Cruising into year six of the 1 year rebuild 

Rhule told us Jay Z didn’t build his empire in 7 years

[mc52beast]

We can’t have nice things in Charlotte. Well I guess FC is in the playoffs so that’s a plus.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

I feel like these are convos you have before trading for a player 

lol about to lose Johnson and Jackson for a conditional 5th pick 

the panthers way, talent farm for other teams 

The Browns were this for a very long time. That is us now.

[LinvilleGorge]

25 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

He also is stopping/giving up on routes. Not good for a culture change….

I think we're just plain fuged. Tepper has ruined us. We're hopeless. Front office knows it, coaches know it, locker room knows it, media knows it, fanbase knows it. It's just ole big brain Dave up there who thinks he's smarter than everyone else who just can't accept that he's a dumbass when it comes to football.

[Donald LaFell]

3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's the right move if we're not gonna re-sign him but unless he's an absolute locker room cancer we should be re-signing him.

Yeah I don’t see the issue signing a guy for 2-3 years when it’s unlikely we see the playoffs any sooner than that. 

[Joe Bear]

55 minutes ago, strato said:

Yeah true.

If we extended him he'd probably blow out his achilles anyway. And he knows it lol. 

There's no "probably". Any player re-signed to a big deal here will forever be on IR by Week 2 at the absolute latest.

[TD alt]

3 hours ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

If he was that good, WR desperate Pittsburgh wouldn’t have dealt him. This “separation” urban legend is comical

I mean, I can see that he can be a problem on the sidelines and in the locker room, that's why Pittsburgh traded him (well that and D-Jac who has been pretty good up there with three picks and all), but the separation stats are the stats. The Next Gen stat specialists aren't analyzing for sh¡ts and giggles, and when Johnson is engaged he passes the eye test with flying colors. If he's disengaged, he becomes somewhat of a malcontent, and that's the issue.

 

Edited October 23 by TD alt

[Tr3ach]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, I can't blame him for being upset about being here. Still, it did look like he quit Sunday. 

Yea that 2nd int was entirely on him.  Dalton trusted him in a 1v1 match up and threw it pretty much blindly and Johnson totally quit on the route.  #1 receivers don't do that.