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Panthers move up to #2 overall


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5 hours ago, Golfdaddya-go-go said:

Could solve future at QB by trading for Justin Fields NOW...Steelers get choice of 2.... Bryce or M Sanders or Johnson or Mingo

I don’t see Johnson getting traded back to the team that traded him to us at the beginning of the year. Would that even be legal?  Couldn’t do that in the NHL. 

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I heard Mel Kiper mention that he has heard from some GMs that aren’t excited by this draft overall and thinks the talent pool will be sub par.  If you look at the second and third rounds of some of these mocks I can see what they mean.

Trading down for extra picks this year may not be smart.  We need BPA

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3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I really don't think there is anyone in this draft worth trading up to #1 for. May end up being proven wrong but I don't want to be on the losing end of that sort of trade......again.

I am still in favor of standing pat unless a wild trade offer is made. BPA all the way. IDC what position in that top 5 range. Just make it a clear cut and relatively safe second contract, solid starter. Elite if possible.

No, I was referring to having the #1 pick already.  I think, in that case, you have to take the best QB if you don't have one.   Trading up? We have proven we can't do that.

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1 hour ago, Shocker said:

I heard Mel Kiper mention that he has heard from some GMs that aren’t excited by this draft overall and thinks the talent pool will be sub par.  If you look at the second and third rounds of some of these mocks I can see what they mean.

Trading down for extra picks this year may not be smart.  We need BPA

This right here. And yet we are still gonna hear the constant trade down talk all the way up to the draft on here. Me personally,  I don't think this draft is top heavy. I think the value is in the later rounds for solid role players at  best. You can get by on that when fielding a defense and offense more. You just gotta make sure you make right picks. 

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    • This is why it's probably going to be hard to trade down. This draft is fairly light on top tier talent but pretty deep in talent of that next tier down. I don't think there's going to be a lot of teams clamoring to move up and numerous teams might be entertaining moving down. Not a good market to trade down if that's the case. 
    • And if they can't find a reasonable trade down (I think we would need a 2nd rounder this year bare minimum to make any trade down worth it). I would definitely expect Dan to trade UP for an EDGE or LB in the top half of R2. Just makes too much sense. We also have a plethora of mid round picks to use as ammo. 
    • I don't mean to make this a mock draft thread particularly,  but every time I do a mock I have been investigating the talent that goes off the board between picks 8 and our low 2nd rounder pick 57. There is a gargantuan amount of talent still left on the board in the top half of the 2nd round every time I do one. Losing our original 2nd round pick to the Bears as the last pick of the Bryce trade stings badly .  I'm particularly looking at elite players like Carson Schwesinger (LB), Luther Burden (WR), Matthew Golden (WR), Maxwell Hairston (CB) , Nick Scourton , Landon Jackson, Donavan Ezeraku (all DEs/OLBs) . The sweet spot in this draft really feels like pick 15 to 40 - ish. This is why the Bears should be making bank with this draft. I don't know how realistic a trade down is from 8, but if we could pick up any teams higher 2nd rounder and still grab their 1st? We'd be cooking with gas man.  Say for example we get Tet McMillan at pick 8, if you wait all the way to 57 you stand the chance of not getting any impact pass rushers in this draft. And I don't think this team can afford that.  I'd personally love for them to take a break from drafting wrs in R1 or R2 (i think we've taken one in the top 2 rounds in the majority of the past few years), and stick to repairing the nfls worse defense in history (in terms of total points against iirc, or was it yards? Also included my most recent mock as an example . Don't put too much into the  late round selections lol  
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