0:26 / 21:08 Carolina Panthers and Dave Canales must evaluate Ejiro Evero as defensive coordinator

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, Deltek44 said:

And the hits keep coming, Luvu who had 2.5 sacks and int last week went on the The 33rd Team and said he wished he had played under Quinn for his entire 7 year career.

Things have to change here.

Yep.  When you have dead cap $$ and have overpaid others, good people walk. 

[Jackie Lee]

2 hours ago, frankw said:

Evero should be facing some level of criticism as he has had significant input in some of the roster management on that side of the ball.

At the same time. If we are now going to formally begin "evaluating" Evero we also must follow with doing so for Morgan. It is our first time GM who set the wheels in motion for this defense to be historically bad and undermanned in order to build around our first overall pick.

IMO you can't ask for one without the other and if you do then you cannot be taken seriously because the front office absolutely needs to be asked some tough questions too.

yes I do recall him in on this

 

[Donald LaFell]

I’m fine with Evero. I can’t see how anyone can be mad at the results he has right now considering the lack of talent. 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Just because he was under Fitterer on the org chart doesn't mean he signed off on every decision. In a previous job, my boss was HORRIBLE. Great guy, terrible leader. I couldn't walk around disagreeing with him all the time and sowing division or I would have been pushed out. However, when he was gone, I moved into that role, changed things and did things my way- same thing here.

I refuse to give up on Morgan midway through season 1, especially when he has to rebuild the mess Fitterer created. I think because Morgan has ties here, he understands the organization, fan base, and how the culture used to be. Fitterer was just happy to get a GM role and cared more about being trendy. Years of destruction and setbacks happened under Fitterer, the Bryce trade alone set us back 2-3 years, not to mention the bad contracts. 

Morgan has had more hits than misses this year:

Legette- Already more promising than Mingo.

Wallace- Hit (So far)

Hunt- Hit

Lewis- Hit

D.Johnson-Hit (and got rid of Jackson in the process)

Mike Jackson- (Traded a 7th rounder that didn't even make the Seahawk's roster for him)

Clowney- Meh

If you look at the guys underperforming, most are Fitterer guys, or guys that used to play for Evero elsewhere.

I can't agree with that rosy a take but Morgan, unfortunately for him, carries the baggage of having been here through the worst era in franchise history under Fitterer. He deserves some rope but much like when Rhule was the GM while Fitterer was here, it's hard to erase that stink unless you are successful.

So far his pro personnel moves seem to be decent. The draft....oooof....Fitterer-esque.

We will see what happens but Morgan is on a short leash because he was here when we made some unbelievably bad roster/draft moves.

[Aussie Tank]

Bring in Salah next offseason 

[CPantherKing]

Clowney, Robinson, Jackson, Woods, Tuttle, Scott, Hill, and Harris all won with their previous DCs. Led teams to the playoffs.

Then there's Horn who had better success with Snow, Holcomb and Wilks.

Ray & Wallace have only been at the command of Evero. Evero is the only key defensive piece that hasn't had success in their current role for multiple teams.

I think it's safe to say all the other DCs of the current Panthers starting defenders would be able to win (and have won) with them. They'd definitely keep them from giving up 30+ points consistently. 32 losses in 3 seasons with 11 of them being 30+ points. He's the Bryce Young of DCs. He needs to go back to coaching safeties and prevent defenses.

[OldhamA]

11 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

Clowney, Robinson, Jackson, Woods, Tuttle, Scott, Hill, and Harris all won with their previous DCs. Led teams to the playoffs.

Then there's Horn who had better success with Snow, Holcomb and Wilks.

Ray & Wallace have only been at the command of Evero. Evero is the only key defensive piece that hasn't had success in their current role for multiple teams.

I think it's safe to say all the other DCs of the current Panthers starting defenders would be able to win (and have won) with them. They'd definitely keep them from giving up 30+ points consistently. 32 losses in 3 seasons with 11 of them being 30+ points. He's the Bryce Young of DCs. He needs to go back to coaching safeties and prevent defenses.

Well that's certainly an opinion.

[kungfoodude]

38 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Well that's certainly an opinion.

It's a lightspeed insane and utterly nonsense opinion but it is technically an opinion.

You know, like the schizophrenic homeless guy will tell you his opinions on the devil without you even asking.

[CPcavedweller]

On 10/10/2024 at 9:21 AM, jayboogieman said:

This is 21 minutes and I haven't watched yet, so no cliff notes from me.

Ejiro isn’t the problem. The defense was good last year when we had some ballers. 
 

Who is our best player now? Horn? He has potential to be a great corner but if that’s your best player, you’re screwed. 

[jayboogieman]

8 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Ejiro isn’t the problem. The defense was good last year when we had some ballers. 
 

Who is our best player now? Horn? He has potential to be a great corner but if that’s your best player, you’re screwed. 

Brown is the best player, though he is out for the season. So, Horn would get the nod as best available player until he goes down again.

As for Evero and last year's defense, they weren't good then either. Those stats don't tell the whole story. If you go by yards allowed only, they were ranked higher. But that's because teams didn't have far to drive due to the Panthers' offense being so terrible. Teams did what they wanted to Evero's guys and the defense ended up ranked 29th when you factor in scores allowed, which is what truly counts.

[TheSpecialJuan]

On 10/10/2024 at 6:21 AM, jayboogieman said:

This is 21 minutes and I haven't watched yet, so no cliff notes from me.

stupid 

[TD alt]

I would say that Saleh has a more legit resumé when it comes to defensive excellence.