4-3

[bigrod9]

Bring back the 4-3 defense. The 3-4 exposes a lot of your weaknesses. ......and we have a lot of them.

[PNW_PantherMan]

I wouldn't mind going back to a 4-3 base, but we don't have the personnel to run anything right now.

[CamWhoaaCam]

That's cool, but how do we fix the lack of talent on defense?

 

Scheme change means nothing if you don't have the players. This defense sucks at tackling. That's a talent issue.

[CamWhoaaCam]

Just now, PNW_PantherMan said:

I wouldn't mind going back to a 4-3 base, but we don't have the personnel to run anything right now.

We literally said the same thing at the same time lol

[Waldo]

Doesn't matter if they keep brining in people who aren't very good. That's a way bigger issue then which scheme to pick IMO. Not like we could find 4-3 ends the last few years in that scheme.

[kungfoodude]

The 3-4 can be very effective and has been used for elite defenses for a long time. Has little to do with the base defense and everything to do with the derth of talent to run the scheme.

Switch to a 4-3 tomorrow and we will still suck as badly as we do now.

[LinvilleGorge]

We have a lot of schematic flexibility moving forward simply because we pretty much need an entire new front seven. LOL

[ProcessBlue2]

Problem A) Roster isn't very good.

Problem B) Defensive coaching also hasn't been very good.

Problem C) We are in a really weird spot where half the defense is more suited for a 4-3 and the other half a 3-4. 

Changing schemes can sometimes get the best out of players if they are better suited for one, problem is half our guys would be in more of a fit and the others would be out of place.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, ProcessBlue2 said:

Problem C) We are in a really weird spot where half the defense is more suited for a 4-3 and the other half a 3-4. 

This has been the case ever since Ron hyped us all up on the switch to a 3-4 but then proceeded to run the exact same defense we'd been running. 

[Khyber53]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

We have a lot of schematic flexibility moving forward simply because we pretty much need an entire new front seven. LOL

Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

At this point we can choose the change away from our base 3-4 defense (and we should). We have like four guys on defense (counting the injured reserve guys) who could start on other teams and seven starters who might make second string on their own. 

It's time for Tepper to put his baby Pittsburgh aspirations aside and get back to the 4-3 defense. 

(And those four are Brown, Thompson, Horn and Woods if you were wondering.)

 

[ProcessBlue2]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This has been the case ever since Ron hyped us all up on the switch to a 3-4 but then proceeded to run the exact same defense we'd been running. 

Yeah and Rhule/Snow running the hybrid 3-3-5 didn't help because they brought in a mixture to the already split group.

[PNW_PantherMan]

Realistically the base probably doesn't matter too much, since they're probably in nickel or dime most of the time.

[Manna]

we gotta get over having 12 men on the field first before fixing our scheme lol

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Realistically the base probably doesn't matter too much, since they're probably in nickel or dime most of the time.

I think that will shift in the next few years. The NFL is cyclical, so I suspect offenses will start morphing back towards some smash mouth football to counter changes to defenses to stop all the pass happy, high flying offenses with a lot of smaller, faster players.

Not an original thought, I have heard it echoed numerous times by multiple prognosticators over the past couple of seasons.