Give Morgan Credit

[Jay Roosevelt]

What's the deal with Taylor Moton? Is he out for an extended period?

[WhoKnows]

13 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, much like Gettleman had to dig out of the cap mess created by Hurney 1.0, Morgan is going to have to navigate the mess that Rhule/Fitterer left in terms of an utterly talent devoid roster.

Hard to say how it will turn out, after all, Gettleman also ended up not only authoring some of the biggest free agency blunders we have ever made but his drafts really fell apart at the end and he ended up a failure.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Morgan ultimately fail but a lot of these problems aren't his making....yet.

What FA blunders? We paid Kalil $31M for mediocre to bad results. Short was a good deal as we got good output during the guarantee. The problem was that Marty came back and let him keep playing and getting diminishing results and injuries. He was correct on Olsen and Marty just gifted him more money when he was hurt and he never was close to the same. Josh Norman was a bit of a fiasco but honestly, he sure didn’t look worth the money and he never came close to 2015 again.

Other than that, all I recall is cheap dumpster diving. Trai Turner was extended by Marty.

I know DG wasn’t a good GM but Marty spent like a drunken sailor as soon as he came back. We paid Teddy as much for one season as we paid for all years of Matt Kalil. Totaling up the FA spending from 2018 to 2020 with Marty 2.0 far exceeded what DG did.

As to the drafts, it’s funny that 2017, Dave’s last draft with us was his best. CMC, Moton, Samuel and Butker is the best we’ve done since, geez, probably close to 20 years we’d have to go back. It doesn’t make up for the rest of the draft mistakes but it’s funny that his last draft was his best with us and it shows what we’ve done wrong since only 1 player is actually still on the team.

Edited October 10, 2024 by WhoKnows

[electro's horse]

Letting Curtis Samuel walk was the right move, and I still say the CMC trade was the right move at the time. It just sucks in hindsight because we used the draft picks on magic beans and he went to the absolutely perfect place for him. But anyone following his injury updates this year has to have Deja vu back to 2021. 

[mrcompletely11]

welp, this doesnt sound good,  nice job Dan

 

https://x.com/josephperson/status/1844468210676138364

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

welp, this doesnt sound good,  nice job Dan

 

https://x.com/josephperson/status/1844468210676138364

Yeah most of you all have been spot on about this.  We just aren't good enough to take a player that has to sit a large portion of the season, much less a RB early...

[frankw]

Only puts more pressure on Brooks to look really really good when he does finally play regardless of what the circumstances are too.

Bad situation all around.

[kungfoodude]

17 minutes ago, frankw said:

Only puts more pressure on Brooks to look really really good when he does finally play regardless of what the circumstances are too.

Bad situation all around.

100%. Plus we traded up to get him.

Poor kid. We really fuged him hard.

[ForJimmy]

We traded back before we traded up and acquired a future 2nd in the process.  It's not like we threw away additional high picks to get him.  I think it was a couple 5ths that we just acquired or got back regardless.  5th rounds picks were being written off as not worth our time for AT and DJ earlier.  

We did however use our 2nd on a player that isn't able to contribute right away and that really hurts with as many holes as we have on this roster.  The pick itself was questionable.  The trade up part of it was no big deal though.  In totality we dropped back some spots and got a 2025 2nd plus Brooks.  

[electro's horse]

and for the record, Brooks was a monster at Texas and we should wait until he takes the field before we make a final judgement on the move.

As it stands, we already have a very good running back and man it'd be sweet if we had more young defenders, tho.

[UnluckyforSome]

It's not the player. He may very well be the next great Longhorns running back. It's everything else. He was picked as though we had a luxury of riches.

[mrcompletely11]

14 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

and for the record, Brooks was a monster at Texas and we should wait until he takes the field before we make a final judgement on the move.

As it stands, we already have a very good running back and man it'd be sweet if we had more young defenders, tho.

you are totally missing the point and I could easily argue Brooks was not a monster at UT last year, he fed on poo teams

[electro's horse]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

you are totally missing the point and I could easily argue Brooks was not a monster at UT last year, he fed on poo teams

Dude I’m agreeing with you. I said I’d rather have a young defender with that pick than a luxury rb, even tho I think brooks is gonna be pretty good. 

his stats dont jump off from at #3 Alabama, and it was early in the year before Saban sacrificed the right number of coeds, but he put the game away. Alabama just ate Texas’ oline up. Also he was blocking and chipping a lot and just like you, me, and most people in fourth grade and above he’s already better than miles sanders. 

also shoutout to future panther ja’tavion sanders just not holding on to the ball at all 

He played great against Oklahoma too. Now sure yeah Oklahoma I get it but that’s a will venables defense. Also oh my god Texas’ oline fuging blew in this game. 

 

[kungfoodude]

44 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Dude I’m agreeing with you. I said I’d rather have a young defender with that pick than a luxury rb, even tho I think brooks is gonna be pretty good. 

his stats dont jump off from at #3 Alabama, and it was early in the year before Saban sacrificed the right number of coeds, but he put the game away. Alabama just ate Texas’ oline up. Also he was blocking and chipping a lot and just like you, me, and most people in fourth grade and above he’s already better than miles sanders. 

also shoutout to future panther ja’tavion sanders just not holding on to the ball at all 

He played great against Oklahoma too. Now sure yeah Oklahoma I get it but that’s a will venables defense. Also oh my god Texas’ oline fuging blew in this game. 

 

Sanders has been Bryce Young-esque.

[ForJimmy]

57 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Sanders has been Bryce Young-esque.

TEs usually take a couple years. Sanders was rushed out before he was ready because Thomas and Tremble were hurt. I’m wiling to give Sanders a while as he is a 4th round TE.