Anybody else disgusted with Richardson?

[Fiz]

it wouldn't surprise me if at least 3 of the players you listed aren't a part of the group.

the only way you could paint me a scenario where only three of those players remain in the near future is if you set it in narnia and we were all tripping.

[Panthers128]

That whole notion is beyond ridiculous.

The idea that a team will be better despite not adding any significant players is beyond ridiculous to me. Especially considering they lost several contributing veterans and have a coach and gm that pretty much know they're fired after the season. No first round pick doesn't help either. Then take into account they need a WR badly and the fact that every WR this coaching staff and GM has ever drafted has been absolutley attrocious and it starts to make a pretty clear picture of the future.

But maybe Matt Moore is that good. Then again, look at who he has to throw to. Even if he is that good it might not matter.

I feel comfortable going into next season though. I have no expectations. 5 wins would be a great year, imo. And if this team is as good as many of you believe, I'll be absolutely ecstatic.

[Fiz]

The idea that a team will be better despite not adding any significant players is beyond ridiculous to me.

implying that this is the team the panthers will field, before the draft and before the post draft free agency period when the panthers traditionally (meaning what they've done the past three years you ignorant wadded up ball of shitty toilet paper) make their moves, is not only ridiculous, but indicates you might have a developmental problem, possibly connected to too many or too few chromosomes.

Especially considering they lost several contributing veterans

jake can go contribute his interceptions somewhere else

diggs can contribute his old ass in st louis, where all other carolina linebackers go to die

hoover can contribute his broken down back to a retirement home

moose can contribute someone else's money to his bank account

kemo can contribute his medical bills to dan snyder

damione lewis can contribute his bench warming abilities to the patriots

there's no reason for the panthers to contribute money to overpaid and underperforming old people when they have cheaper youth on the bench jesus christ do you f**king understand anything

and have a coach and gm that pretty much know they're fired after the season.

oh now you're psychic

No first round pick doesn't help either.

This sentence is structurally impossible and yet there it is.

Then take into account they need a WR badly

once again, before the draft and post draft free agency period when the panthers traditionally (that means the last three years you overgrown flagellum) make all their moves and find their key contributors.

and the fact that every WR this coaching staff and GM has ever drafted has been absolutley attrocious

you misspelled atrocious

past results do not indicate future performance.

and it starts to make a pretty clear picture of the future.

what in the name of god is your definition of clear?

furthermore, what then does that make your definition of opaque?

But maybe Matt Moore is that good. Then again, look at who he has to throw to. Even if he is that good it might not matter.

oh poo you made a really good point

wait no you didn't

I feel comfortable going into next season though. I have no expectations. 5 wins would be a great year, imo. And if this team is as good as many of you believe, I'll be absolutely ecstatic.

you suck at posting and I bet you're a bore to be around.

[Mr. Scot]

The idea that a team will be better despite not adding any significant players is beyond ridiculous to me.

The offseason is already over? Wait. When was the draft?

Especially considering they lost several contributing veterans and have a coach and gm that pretty much know they're fired after the season.

Marty Hurney has already been offered an extension, and Fox doesn't 'know he's fired"

"Contributing veterans" is also debatable.

No first round pick doesn't help either. Then take into account they need a WR badly and the fact that every WR this coaching staff and GM has ever drafted has been absolutley attrocious and it starts to make a pretty clear picture of the future.

Gee. Why bother even drafting then? :nonod:

But maybe Matt Moore is that good. Then again, look at who he has to throw to. Even if he is that good it might not matter.

I feel comfortable going into next season though. I have no expectations. 5 wins would be a great year, imo. And if this team is as good as many of you believe, I'll be absolutely ecstatic.

Nobody has a realistic clue how good or bad we'll be at this point.

[Fiz]

heh, yeah, if they're as good as you dumb people think they'll be next year (no one has said they'll be good or bad) then I'll be ecstatic. me, I'm thinking five wins (first person to say how good or bad they'll be)

[PantherBrew]

what do you define as consistently good

because for the pats and colts whelp having the two best qbs of all time have helped things.

it is a combination of things that involves good draftings, making prudent choices in free agency, spending your money wisely, taking advantage of fortunate situation irt hardships of your opponents, as well as a good ole dose of luck.

none of these things are easily quantifiable and i know it's difficult for simple folk such as yourself who, in the lakoffian sense, believe in harsh morality and simplistic binary systems, to understand that there's more than one simple answer to all of these questions.

Sorry it took me so long I had to google "lakoffian" and this made me giggle too "believe in harsh morality and simplistic binary systems".

Haha, Yea because I just said that all it takes to be great every year is to draft well.

Duh, of course it takes a multitude of things to go a certain way to be good.

So funny that you call me simplistic, but then you generalize my arguement and and totally misrepresent it.

My point was that consistantly good teams, tend to draft well. And that the draft was not a complete "crap shoot". Someone as smart as you must understand that drafting is not 100% based on luck. However, My Patriots arguement was flawed because of the last couple seasons they have slipped.

Straw man, the official argument of the Huddle.

[cookinbrak]

there's no reason for the panthers to contribute money to overpaid and underperforming old people when they have cheaper youth on the bench jesus christ do you f**king understand anything

Can't help but notice that you didn't use the words "better" or "more talented". Yet we still continue to sign (and pay) other teams rejects.

But it's gonna be OK. We're gonna pick up at least 5 starters in the draft.

Not necessarily players that would start for other teams, but they'll start for us. That's how good we are.

[Kurb]

Isn't every mid level FA really another teams reject in some form ?

[Fiz]

My point was that consistantly good teams, tend to draft well. And that the draft was not a complete "crap shoot".

my sincerest apologies for not properly addressing your banal and twee intended post.

[carolinanimal]

The idea that a team will be better despite not adding any significant players is beyond ridiculous to me. Especially considering they lost several contributing veterans and have a coach and gm that pretty much know they're fired after the season. No first round pick doesn't help either. Then take into account they need a WR badly and the fact that every WR this coaching staff and GM has ever drafted has been absolutley attrocious and it starts to make a pretty clear picture of the future.

But maybe Matt Moore is that good. Then again, look at who he has to throw to. Even if he is that good it might not matter.

I feel comfortable going into next season though. I have no expectations. 5 wins would be a great year, imo. And if this team is as good as many of you believe, I'll be absolutely ecstatic.

didnt steve smith say were were down as were currently are now?

[Fiz]

Can't help but notice that you didn't use the words "better" or "more talented".

By all means tell me which player besides moose isn't already replaced by someone at least as good.

[Ja Rhule]

This reminds me of what Frank and Buck said the other day.

They said having played for Mr Richardson they know he is a man who is going to do whatever it takes to win. He is not cheap, and never will be. "Tanking" a season is not an option for him, ever. He didn't get to where he is by making bad decisions.

This coming from guys who have worked for JR and have both been vocal about the lack of activity.

Maybe JR have a change of heart?

[ncbobcat]

But it's gonna be OK. We're gonna pick up at least 5 starters in the draft.

Not necessarily players that would start for other teams, but they'll start for us. That's how good we are.

I have a feeling the 5 starters from the draft was sarcasm, because if we start a 6th round pick, something has to give. Either the FO pulled a horse shoe out of their arses or one of our current starters shouldn't have been starting in the first place!

[littlebigman89]

nope. i'm actually quite happy with the way we are operating. We have a metric sh*tload of players to re-sign in the next two seasons and we have no idea how the new CBA is going to work out. This is smart. The only serious downgrade we've had is at DE. This is a good team. We need a receiver and some depth. That's about it.

I agree. With more consistent QB play through the whole season last year and they would have made the playoffs. There have been years in the past where they spent boatloads of money (Ken Lucas, Mike Wahle, Maake Kemoeatu) and didn't get a lot in return. We cut some guys loose that were costing more than they were worth and were getting on in age. We always wish for that "big splash" in free agency, but there were no real quality guys due to the change from 4 years to 6 years for players to become unrestricted. There was a lot of talented players, some of our own, that were restrcited free agents that would have been unrestricted in the past. I agree with the post above. We have some good players that need to be resigned soon. There is the draft to come, plus who knows how many more guys will hit the market before training camp.