Travis Hunter hype thread

[Champagnepapi704]

1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You are confusing bro.

 

I get your love affair for Tmac, but it's strange you say you think Hunter is elite, yet you question people when they bring his name up.

 

Something not adding up. You writing paragraphs on a guy you supposedly saying is elite. But giving reasons as to why he's not good for us.

 

Chill out bro nobody is going to forget about Tmac in the draft lol.

Just because someone gives valid points why he won't be elite you're confused?

[CamWhoaaCam]

17 minutes ago, Champagnepapi704 said:

Just because someone gives valid points why he won't be elite you're confused?

He's quoting me for something I never said. He's been repeating this same thing for weeks now.

 

I'm confused because he keeps bringing me up as if I said Hunter is playing both side which was his point as to why we shouldn't draft him.

 

Makes sense now?

[flagfootballcoach28]

Drafting a CB at #1? I’ll pass 

[tukafan21]

13 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

He's quoting me for something I never said. He's been repeating this same thing for weeks now.

 

I'm confused because he keeps bringing me up as if I said Hunter is playing both side which was his point as to why we shouldn't draft him.

 

Makes sense now?

Show me one time that I specifically said YOU have said he'll play both sides of the ball in the NFL.

I keep saying that "people" as in the general term, keep talking about taking him in the draft and then gushing about his two way ability in college, which by the way is 100% something you have done on many occasions by the way.

And I just keep reiterating that people (again, the general term, not talking about any one person in particular) need to stop talking about his 2 way ability when talking about him as a draft prospect, it's completely irrelevant.  If you want to gush about his college play and/or Heisman chances, then sure, go ahead, that is 100% warranted and I've said as much many times, as he is a generational collegiate talent, no question about that.

You have also said on numerous occasions that you'd take him over T-Mac for either side of the ball, which again, I keep giving extremely valid reasons why that would be a terrible decision if he's going to be a WR.

In fact, the only time I specifically mentioned you in this discussion was in regards to my post NOT being about bashing Hunter the college player or general draft prospect, since you are the person who has numerous times "called me out" for bashing him and saying you don't understand why I would do that.  

The only confusion is that you seem to confuse the difference between bashing a player and giving pros/cons as to their NFL prospects at a specific position.  

Saying someone is a likely Top 10 pick on one side of the ball and still a 1st rounder on the other side, but the 2nd or 3rd best prospect at one of those positions is anything but bashing, it's giving supreme credit to the player, but acknowledging some issues for him at the next level on one of those sides of the ball.

[tukafan21]

8 minutes ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

Drafting a CB at #1? I’ll pass 

This too

If you take a CB in the Top 5, they HAVE to be a home run pick and be a decade long lock down corner.  

That's why I've said I'd take T-Mac #1 over Hunter on either side of the ball, without a second thought.

If someone wants to argue a pass rusher I don't know as much about, like the kid from I think Tennessee, then okay, I can't really argue that because we need a pass rusher and I know nothing about him.  But I know how long we've tried to find a true #1 WR and how rare it is to find someone with the size and talent of T-Mac and I think passing on him at any draft slot would be a mistake.

[Aussie Tank]

We need other teams to fall in love with a prospect we’re gonna need a kings ransom for our pick 

[PappyMay]

5 hours ago, Shocker said:

Why would Prime have any say on where he goes?

He came out and said both him and his son will go top 4 and that there could be an Eli Manning situation ahead.

[CRA]

We are going to need a corner…

we presently only have 1 and there is no way we should pay him in reality.  

[VintagePanther]

6 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

This too

If you take a CB in the Top 5, they HAVE to be a home run pick and be a decade long lock down corner.  

That's why I've said I'd take T-Mac #1 over Hunter on either side of the ball, without a second thought.

If someone wants to argue a pass rusher I don't know as much about, like the kid from I think Tennessee, then okay, I can't really argue that because we need a pass rusher and I know nothing about him.  But I know how long we've tried to find a true #1 WR and how rare it is to find someone with the size and talent of T-Mac and I think passing on him at any draft slot would be a mistake.

Taking A Wr over T Hunter is exactly why i don’t listen to people on here . Hunter is generational it’s clear as day but people choose to ignore it for whatever reason . Clean prospect . Btw i think  t Mac is nice but if you choose him over hunter ill pray for you lol 

[VintagePanther]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

We are going to need a corner…

we presently only have 1 and there is no way we should pay him in reality.  

Exactly we need secondary just as much as pass rush . We slow and old in the secondary 

[VintagePanther]

3 hours ago, PappyMay said:

He came out and said both him and his son will go top 4 and that there could be an Eli Manning situation ahead.

He ain’t Travis Hunter pops that’s just talk . Now his son yes i truly believe he will do that . 

[kungfoodude]

He has the capability to be a shut down corner but I worry about the high mileage on him. But, this is also one of the very few areas on the team we seem to be above average at. 

Admittedly, the idea of Hunter/Horn as a combo is pretty amazing. 

[tukafan21]

6 hours ago, VintagePanther said:

Taking A Wr over T Hunter is exactly why i don’t listen to people on here . Hunter is generational it’s clear as day but people choose to ignore it for whatever reason . Clean prospect . Btw i think  t Mac is nice but if you choose him over hunter ill pray for you lol 

And posts like this are exactly why I keep screaming into the void, because it's just flat out wrong.  Yes, Hunter is a generational player, it is clear as day, no question about it, period.

But he is a generational COLLEGIATE talent, NOT a generational NFL prospect, there is a very very very big difference.  The level he's playing at on both sides of the ball has never been seen before, but it's also not something that has a single ounce of impact on his NFL prospects.

The Golden Calf of Bristol was a generational collegiate talent, Cam Newton was a generational collegiate talent, only one of them was an elite NFL prospect, you can be one without being the other.

Hell, I'm not even saying T-Mac is a better NFL prospect than Hunter is a CB prospect.  I'm not saying he isn't either, I'm just not an NFL draft expert enough to differentiate elite players at different positions to determine who is the better prospect in general.

But we have Horn already and you can find solid starting CB's in free agency or even later rounds of the draft.

You can't find 6'5", 215 lbs WRs with the hands, speed, and agility that T-Mac has, he's darn near a unicorn, there are only a handful of WR's in the league with a similar combination of what he brings.  Combine that with our best WR under contract for next season being Legette and how long we've tried and failed to find a true outside #1 WR, he's the CLEAR pick for our team over any CB.

I'd also take a true elite pass rushing prospect over Hunter if one separates himself as being that kind of elite prospect as well, as it's more of a need for our team than a CB is at this current moment.  But even then, I'd still take T-Mac over that type of player as well, I'm that convinced that he's going to be a Top 5 type of WR in the league for the next decade.

I said this in a previous thread, we've had a lot of great players in my time as a Wildcat, some have panned out, others I felt strongly about ended up as busts (Kadeem Carey was one I thought would be a star and just wasn't close).  But there have only been 2 that I've felt this way about, that they were can't miss sure fire NFL superstars who will end up in Canton.

T-Mac and Gronkowski, and I'd say I was pretty right on the other, I can't say T-Mac will end up as the best WR of all time like Gronk did at TE of course, that would be crazy to say, but I feel the same way about him coming out of school as I did Gronk.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by tukafan21

[ProcessBlue2]

I would thoroughly enjoy drafting Mason Graham and putting him with A'Shawn Robinson and Derrick Brown as a start to stop this horrible run D.