Here is the main problem

[Basbear]

3 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

Burns isn't a star and the rest were quite a few drafts ago..

The last good draft was gettleguts last one in 2017. 

[Jackie Lee]

At least we didn't have to watch BY throw the football the last two weeks, I'll take that for now

[Cuttinedge]

Scouting dept shoulda been let go years ago.  Other teams draft players that actually contribute first year from 3-5 round.  We lucky to get a starter from the 2nd round 

[Basbear]

4 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

At least we didn't have to watch BY throw the football the last two weeks, I'll take that for now

watching panther football with BY at QB=

 

 

with the ginger avenger

 

 

[pantherj]

The thing about Young being benched is that now we know exactly what we have talent wise. We have no pass rush, and defenders who miss too many tackles and allow too much YAC. On offense we have good interior pass protection, so-so exterior pass protection, WRs who are decent but don't win enough on 50/50 balls and have inconsistent hands.

Taken all together, along with other factors, and you have a lower tier team that isn't rock bottom, but isn't going to sniff the playoffs. The top priority now is obviously to improve the pass rush in the 2025 draft. 

Fitt was an awful GM, and too many of his draft picks didn't pan out. We should have traded Brain Burns for two first round picks, and kept CMC. This team with a healthy CMC is close to making the playoffs imo.

[Jackie Lee]

5 minutes ago, Basbear said:

watching panther football with BY at QB=

 

 

with the ginger avenger

 

 

If Andy goes down I'd rather watch Plummer throw 40 yard picks all day long than BY ground 5 yarders over and over

[strato]

Me too. He has been horrible to watch play. I mean from the 1st game where he threw those two picks.

Funny thing is, when that game happened I was bewildered, not sure at all what I was watching. But it was so bad. I remember trying to figure out what I had seen and trying to make sense of it.

After watching him try to play for a season, I went back to check a couple of things and it didn't seem that bad. We have been conditioned to a new low bar for not that bad.

 

Edited October 1 by strato

[R0CKnR0LLA]

You're overall roster talent is basically two things

1, maximizing cheap talent (your last 4 drafts)

2, maximizing cap space (good FA pickups at fair prices)

Going to take a couple good drafts to turn around the mess Fitterer left.

Luckily there doesn't seem to be too many bad FA contracts we're stuck with long term. Sanders and Ian Thomas should both be coming off soon. After that there's really nothing too bad outside of B.Young who we'll probably end up trading and unload his contract that way.

[DaveThePanther2008]

1 hour ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

You're overall roster talent is basically two things

1, maximizing cheap talent (your last 4 drafts)

2, maximizing cap space (good FA pickups at fair prices)

Going to take a couple good drafts to turn around the mess Fitterer left.

Luckily there doesn't seem to be too many bad FA contracts we're stuck with long term. Sanders and Ian Thomas should both be coming off soon. After that there's really nothing too bad outside of B.Young who we'll probably end up trading and unload his contract that way.

Can't cry over spilled milk. I'm just happy Fitterer is gone and Morgan is doing well to rebuild this roster. 

Picks 1-4 in 2024 draft class seem to be pretty solid picks. The bottom half of class needs developing. 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

I don’t trust this team with any draft picks. I would trade picks at rounds 3-7 for known commodities

[Car123]

Holy poo, 2023 may be our worst draft ever.

[strato]

Having your worst pick ever will pull down a grade. 

[Khyber53]

13 hours ago, Basbear said:

 

The scouting department is the cause for bad panther football.  

I've been pounding on that drum for years, no one listens.

[HPPantherzfan]

10 hours ago, pantherj said:

This team with a healthy CMC is close to making the playoffs imo.

Not saying Jonathan Brooks is CMC but he might be close if he is anything like he was Texas.  And with Chuba running like he is right now we might be even better.  We could possible see a mix of the CMC days with the Thunder and Lightning days.  Pretty excited about that!