Hurricane Helene thread - Not a football thread but y’all be safe *keep politics, conspiracy theories, and and tinderbox squabbles out of this*

[Jon Snow]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

 

I know clean water is at its highest demand, it was getting crazy with Asheville reports for bottle water. Im sorry to ask and know I was lucky to have help before I bought my generator. My father told me- " make sure you buy one that will run your water pump ". Dam near broke me at the time, but I did and years later I wished I bought one bigger. (uncle came from SC to get mine) Can anyone do that in your areas? I know you know about boiling your water after this mess, just a friendly reminder. I dont know your area but there should be springs, just boil. I also heard many of the helicopters were refusing bottle water, but that was a couple days ago.  

Bless you and ham it up, godspeed jon snow.  

I have a well and have plenty of clean water just need power.  I have a generator that I bought when I lived in New Been 25 years ago. Lived through plenty of hurricanes there. But that generator no l9nger runs. They've brought in plenty by the truck loads. Folks are just so used to the power being back on so fast that they have stopped buying them. I'm thinking of going solar and definitely going to check into star link. 

[Jon Snow]

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Actually him coming prevents us from doing our work while he's here. Our drones cannot fly anywhere near his route. But we have contingency plans. My group is part of the disaster response team and most of us have been working 14 to 16 hour days since daybreak Sunday morning. None of us had power or water and little to know communication with the outside world. I just got off the phone with the team lead getting updates. Everyone is spent.

I'm not sure why this post was poo'd. It's the Secret Service controlling the air space you morons. We had to do the same thing for the Governor.  I swear some of you are obsessed with politics. 

Edited October 3 by Jon Snow

[LinvilleGorge]

I'm very glad to have Starlink. I would've been without connectivity from home other than text for a few days without it. We talked about getting a whole house generator when we bought this place because we're half a mile off the road and there's only two houses on this line. I knew in the event of a major outage (I was thinking ice storm would be the most likely culprit) we'd be super low priority. But since we bought the place we've never lost power but for a few minutes. Now this and sure enough, nope we still don't have power. I don't really care. I'm fine with being the last house in Burke County with power as far as I'm concerned. I have a 3500w generator that can run everything except the HVAC, kitchen range, and dryer and I have plenty of other cooking options.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I'm not sure why this post was poo'd. It's the Secret Service controlling the air space you morons.

The politicians flocking to grip and grin just fugs poo up. Just keep your asses away and sign the paperwork. How about some damn helicopters? It's pathetic that the private helicopters are still grossly outnumbering the government helicopters. Just started noticing Blackhawks yesterday. Before that it was almost all private birds with the occasional Chinook.

[strato]

They should have been ready to go Saturday. 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The politicians flocking to grip and grin just fugs poo up. Just keep your asses away and sign the paperwork. How about some damn helicopters? It's pathetic that the private helicopters are still grossly outnumbering the government helicopters. Just started noticing Blackhawks yesterday. Before that it was almost all private birds with the occasional Chinook.

Politicians can't miss an opportunity to take advantage of a disaster l.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Politicians can't miss an opportunity to take advantage of a disaster l.

Facts.

Our local dipshit Warren Daniel had to get out there to "escort" aid convoys. Nevermind the state troopers in front of his truck doing the actual escorting. You're just taking advantage of photo ops.

[Panthers Fan 69]

You boys just take of yourselves and your family.  We got you. Heading that way tomorrow to load more trucks and helicopters at HRA.  

Edited October 3 by Panthers Fan 69

[pamlicopanther]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Facts.

Our local dipshit Warren Daniel had to get out there to "escort" aid convoys. Nevermind the state troopers in front of his truck doing the actual escorting. You're just taking advantage of photo 

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm very glad to have Starlink. I would've been without connectivity from home other than text for a few days without it. We talked about getting a whole house generator when we bought this place because we're half a mile off the road and there's only two houses on this line. I knew in the event of a major outage (I was thinking ice storm would be the most likely culprit) we'd be super low priority. But since we bought the place we've never lost power but for a few minutes. Now this and sure enough, nope we still don't have power. I don't really care. I'm fine with being the last house in Burke County with power as far as I'm concerned. I have a 3500w generator that can run everything except the HVAC, kitchen range, and dryer and I have plenty of other cooking options.

 

Pretty much my setup here in Eastern NC

 

We have weathered several hurricanes and this generator has been awesome and gotten us through a few times

 

 

[BIGH2001]

7 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The politicians flocking to grip and grin just fugs poo up. Just keep your asses away and sign the paperwork. How about some damn helicopters? It's pathetic that the private helicopters are still grossly outnumbering the government helicopters. Just started noticing Blackhawks yesterday. Before that it was almost all private birds with the occasional Chinook.

The election is coming up soon. There’s more important things to do to make sure they can secure 2-6 more years of a “job” where they do absolutely nothing except line theirs and their friends pockets with special interest legislation.

Edited October 3 by BIGH2001

[jayboogieman]

Taken from a reddit post:

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I've been part of the coordination end of major disaster relief (Katrina), well meaning morons caused more harm than good in the immediate aftermath.

There are places to volunteer, for fugs sake it's there to actually make things better and make sure people don't die trying to help.

I want you to help, if you want to show up with heavy equipment and a crew? You're in the way. Any government agency that sent you somewhere would be liable for your safety and any unintentional harm you cause.

Then there's training, do you know how to assess a road or house for stability? Who do you tell? You know that emergency management is mapping this poo.

Do you know where the downed lines are that can't be secured? How do you report them and record the details? Who do you tell?

Do you have an evacuation pipeline in place for when you find someone injured or get hurt yourself?

WHO THE fug IS GOING TO DIE SO SOMEONE CAN RESCUE YOU?

You're not going to be a hero if you jump into this poo alone.

You CAN get trained, you should if you want to help NEXT time.

Talk to your local red cross, talk to your volunteer fire department, but don't stick your dick in this and wonder why it doesn't feel good.

 

[jayboogieman]

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• US Army and US Navy helicopters, soldiers, and sailors to provide critical capability to move personnel and supplies in areas where access via roads is not available or viable.
• US Air Force aircraft, helicopters, and airmen to provide search-and-rescue capabilities.
• US Army soldiers and high wheeled vehicles to move personnel and supplies over roads and terrain damaged or impassable to normal vehicles.
• The Army Corps of Engineers is supporting with response efforts with Temporary Power Teams and subject matter experts to support for debris removal, water and wastewater management, and bridge inspections. 

 

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At the President’s direction, the Department of Defense has activated 22 helicopters to aid in search and rescue operations and provided dozens of high-water vehicles. The National Guard, in its state capacity, is also aiding these efforts. 700 National Guard from North Carolina are supporting debris removal, air lifts, and search and rescue. They are accompanied by National Guard from eight additional states under Emergency Mutual Assistance Compacts, with helicopters and rescue vehicles to further assist with road clearance, commodities, transport, and search and rescue.

Although not operating under Department of Defense authority, over 6,000 National Guard personnel from 12 states are spearheading the response effort across the impacted region in support of their Governors, providing critical life-saving and life-sustaining support to the victims of this unprecedented natural disaster.

 

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More than 4,800 personnel from across the Federal workforce are deployed and supporting state-led response efforts across the region. FEMA and other agencies have more than 1,200 personnel in North Carolina, with more resources and staff arriving daily.

Search and rescue efforts by state, local, and Federal partners are ongoing, and nearly 600 additional personnel are arriving in the region in the coming days, increasing the total number of Urban Search and Rescue personnel to over 1,250.

Much more info here

Just because people aren't seeing the troops and federal agencies in lesser hit areas like LG's, doesn't mean they're not there.

[ProcessBlue2]

Might be an unpopular opinion but I was about 10 miles north of Lake Pontchartrain during Katrina helping family. I grew up in a town that was wiped out this past weekend and still live close enough that my family had to relocate to a hotel. There is a huge difference in the response.

Edited October 3 by ProcessBlue2

[jayboogieman]

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Asheville was touted as a climate haven, a place to escape the worst ravages of extreme weather. But Hurricane Helene’s deadly path of destruction reveals this North Carolina city, like any in America, was never safe — it’s just that memories are short and the reach of the climate crisis is consistently underestimated.

 

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It’s all a far cry from the image that some media outlets, real estate agents and residents painted of Asheville, located hundreds of miles from the Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico: a place relatively safe from the climate extremes affecting other parts of the US.

 

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Even the climate experts who call Asheville home believed they were insulated from the worst risks. Susan Hassol, a veteran climate change communicator and science writer, said she and others “have labored under the illusion that we live in a relatively climate-safe place.”

But in a world reshaped by human-caused global warming, no place is truly safe and Helene had the “fingerprints of climate change” all over it, Dello told CNN.

 

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In some ways, this scenic swath of western North Carolina was primed for catastrophe.

Much of Buncombe County is shaped like a bowl, meaning torrential rain can quickly funnel down and inundate neighborhoods. “It’s a mountainous area, and the hill slopes are very steep. It doesn’t take a lot of rain to cause a landslide,” Dello said.

 

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A recent First Street report found parts of North Carolina devastated by Helene could now experience a once-in-100 year flood every 11 to 25 years.

And the kicker as has been said previously in this thread,

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But, while Helene may have undone the idea of a “climate-safe” city, Tulane University’s Keenan does not believe it will ultimately dampen people’s desire to move here. “I think this is actually going to accelerate this process,” he said.

In a tragic twist, disasters like hurricanes “clean the slate” for developers and investors to come from outside and buy up properties relatively cheaply to redevelop into denser, more expensive homes, Keenan said.

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