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Bryce played his best of his career doing his job on Sunday, so why trade him now?


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1 hour ago, mc52beast said:

Everyone said Tua was a bust, would never be any good then he got matched up with a HC who knew how to use him. Baker went to LA and played well, now he’s playing good in Tampa. Darnold is balling out in Minnesota. 

I think we have a head coach that knows how to use him, but sure send down to that weird dude in MIami if he'll have him. I'd like to see that.

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1 hour ago, Donald LaFell said:

He’s one of the worst quarterbacks I’ve ever seen play. He’s not going to turn it around. If he wasn’t a number 1 pick he never would have been in contention for the job this year at all. 
 

Canales had to trot him out for 2 games to establish how poo he is at the job so he could bench him. He’ll never play in the league again. 

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Bryce was historically bad. He had like four drives total to point to over an entire season where he looked like a competent QB, and none where he looked elite (or hardly even as good as Dalton on Sunday).

But... Would we get more for him in the off-season?  Would we possibly be in a situation where playing him is good for us (aka if Dalton is injured and we're not looking competitive even with him)?

Tho maybe if Dalton keeps balling out, BY or his surrogates force an exit.

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41 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

 

Having him on the roster, watching and learning isn't hurting anyone or anything, except for the fans that absolutely hate him. 

He is a distraction that players and coaches have to talk about in interviews, and the fear that he may start again and he has to give off negative energy in the locker room 

It would be best for the team to show we are moving on from our mistake , and rally behind Dalton to get what we can out of this season 

And we don't hate Bryce the person, he just can't play Qb in this league, and we have given him enough time to improve, but he is getting worse, and shows no drive or determination to work to get better

He is a liability even as a back-up, and we will eventually have to release him unless we can fleece another team like Bryce did to us to trade for him 

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1 hour ago, Day1PanthersFan said:

He is a distraction that players and coaches have to talk about in interviews, and the fear that he may start again and he has to give off negative energy in the locker room 

It would be best for the team to show we are moving on from our mistake , and rally behind Dalton to get what we can out of this season 

And we don't hate Bryce the person, he just can't play Qb in this league, and we have given him enough time to improve, but he is getting worse, and shows no drive or determination to work to get better

He is a liability even as a back-up, and we will eventually have to release him unless we can fleece another team like Bryce did to us to trade for him 

The media distraction will fade if Dalton keeps being successful. If we ascend to a 5+ win team this season, most of the national media will ignore the Bryce storyline until the offseason(minus the trade deadline week). 

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High unlikely that 36 year old Andy Dalton stays healthy all year. There will be one last opportunity for Bryce to prove himself and his fabled work ethic and I think seeing that out is worth more than a fourth rounder, even if it means we get nothing for him. In the meantime we should sign a capable backup and it's on Bryce to beat him for the #2 spot outright.

Is he a buzzkill to keep around? Maybe, but this is where the soft spoken personality helps him. If he's just hanging out he'll fade into the background. If he shows effort to save his career that will reflect positively on his teammates.

A third round pick I'd say would be worth cutting our losses now.

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4 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Not sure there is any reason to trade him at this point.  

Having him on the roster, watching and learning isn't hurting anyone or anything, except for the fans that absolutely hate him. 

My compassionate side says yea keep him on the bench cause I feel bad for the kid. My business side says hes taking up a precious slot on the 53 man that can be filled with someone who can actually help us win, so it does hurt the team. Even if he is our backup he gives us no chance to win by evidence of 2-16. Hell, if he happens to convert a 3rd down, I celebrate like its a TD because its a rare happening. Its not hate, its reality. Get what you can for him.

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46 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D. said:

We need to take advantage of a GM/HC's hubris while we can. Some team that invisions themselves as QB guru types. Ship him out before teams even start evaluating talent in the draft. Miami for a 3rd? That a done deal IMO.

Probably any deal will be after the start of the league new year in 2025. That's basically the only way we can get something down without having to jettison $7 mil in salary or find someone(s) willing to start contract extension negotiations during the season.

Hence why I really don't think you will see us do much with him until 2025. Ideally we agree in principle to a deal that will process after June 1st. Then we will minimalize the dead cap hit.

It's likely to be another very tough offseason for us cap-wise so any assistance in alleviating that is likely worth more than a mid round versus late round draft pick.

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Probably any deal will be after the start of the league new year in 2025. That's basically the only way we can get something down without having to jettison $7 mil in salary or find someone(s) willing to start contract extension negotiations during the season.

Hence why I really don't think you will see us do much with him until 2025. Ideally we agree in principle to a deal that will process after June 1st. Then we will minimalize the dead cap hit.

It's likely to be another very tough offseason for us cap-wise so any assistance in alleviating that is likely worth more than a mid round versus late round draft pick.

Can't we negotiate that teams take on some of his guarunteed salary and reduce our immediate cap hit for the trade? 

I could be mistaken but thought that was possible 

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